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nina_janeway1
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 04:30
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Heya, which do you think is the best Voyager ep? Personally I think it's Endgame... it's just so great, excellent acting and story, fantastic special fx and a bit of humour as well! I just love time travel, how Janeway makes her final appearance and the destruction of the Borg. When I saw the ep, I just gasped. Nothing ever beats Voyager, and Endgame!!

Janeway out!

lzrman
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 06:01
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My favorite episode hey? is the ones where theres the doctor taking the main role :P ex. Renassance Man where he acts everyone and such.  Endgame was a nice final episode to wrap it all into conclusion.


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fallhorn
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 12:19
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THE best Voyager Ep was, and still is, Message in a Bottle, where the EMH mark 1 meets EMH mark 2.

:D  :P

/Glenn



jor
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 12:25
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One of Voyager's good episodes I remember is the one with the micro-wormhole, with the Romulan ship at the other end.

Episodes like that almost made the rest bearable  ;)

rag451
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 12:27
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<!--QuoteBegin--fallhorn+Nov. 19 2002,12:19--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (fallhorn @ Nov. 19 2002,12:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->THE best Voyager Ep was, and still is, <i>Message in a Bottle</i>, where the EMH mark 1 meets EMH mark 2.<br><br> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--><br><br>/Glenn<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Agreed!<br><br>Robert

char
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 13:33
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My Fave eppy... oh goodness... i guess if i had to think RIGHT NOW would be 'One' were EMH and 7of9 have a kid! I loved that eppy!
But i also like Message in a Bottle....

Char

havoc
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 14:28
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*Tuts* Special effects? Great Acting? Hum....not endgame, the ending was too soon, and too fast.

The best episode for Voyager was Year Of Hell, constantly under attack, always fighting for survival...that was the best one :)

Havoc :k

jor
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 15:13
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Oh please. Year of Hell?

"Acting FROM hell"

lzrman
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# Posted: 19 Nov 2002 15:15
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<!--QuoteBegin--jor+Nov. 19 2002,15:13--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (jor @ Nov. 19 2002,15:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh please. Year of Hell?<br><br>"Acting FROM hell"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>*wonders if i could bring Jor there with me* <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo-->\\Endgame, Renasanceman, Message in bottle. all favs and classiques <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo-->

stevennorton
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# Posted: 20 Nov 2002 03:40
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Gonna haveta go with D'D here. "Shattered" was definately the best. Followed by "Collective" I would say. Or maybe "Scorpion" or "Unimatrix Zero" or "Raven" or any epi with Seven... anything to boast ratings eh? *lol*

Steve N.

rick_hunter1
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# Posted: 21 Nov 2002 17:20
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Message in a bottle was cool. I like the one where they meet Captain Sulu on the Excelsior. Can't remember the name though.

matt
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# Posted: 21 Nov 2002 23:00
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i think the best ep of voyager is scorpion.  I remember hearing that story when i was young  :)

there short an sweet lol

matt

christena
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# Posted: 22 Nov 2002 07:15
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Hey All!! Umm..If I had to choose one.....It would be The Q and the Grey..........but then again I like anything that pertains  military uniforms......*cough*  And the female Q reminds me of someone...*looks innocent*:k  :P  :k

babel
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# Posted: 24 Nov 2002 13:19
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I'm going for Endgame as well. Not because it's a remotely good episode (even by Voyager's dismal standards it's bad) , but because at least we knew the series was over and out of it's misery. *heh, heh* :k

wedge
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# Posted: 24 Nov 2002 19:48
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<!--QuoteBegin--fallhorn+Nov. 19 2002,12:19--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (fallhorn @ Nov. 19 2002,12:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->THE best Voyager Ep was, and still is, <i>Message in a Bottle</i>, where the EMH mark 1 meets EMH mark 2.<br><br> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--><br><br>/Glenn<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I also agree wiht that! I could never find on Video though <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->

rick_hunter1
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# Posted: 25 Nov 2002 16:36
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Babel - ooh, so harsh. But y'have a point.
It took Janeway 7 YEARS to get home.
Kirk or Picard could've done it in a couple hours.
It would've taken Sisko a few days.
And Archer, bah. He would've gotten his whole ship blown up in the first episode :P

wenche_from_norway
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# Posted: 26 Nov 2002 03:23
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I think "Messige in a bottel",and "Basics"part one and two are proberbly best episodes ever

babel
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# Posted: 27 Nov 2002 07:30
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You know, I always quite liked the early episode 'The Thaw', but I've seen this episode get REALLY panned from a lot of critics. It was one of Voyager's best in my opinion.

gentry
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# Posted: 27 Nov 2002 11:44
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I really enjoyed Basics,Fury,Shattered,One, and did anyone miss jennifer Lien (kes) i did.... i was dissappoinded by Endgame, i though it lacked allot - in terms of being the final eppe, had some good stuff thou... Any eppie with the Doc,Seven,Janeway i luved, the rest needed more character development and were left on the way side, think of what they could have done with belana and beltran (chaq..something)

^_^Gentry - the non spelling one^_^




lzrman
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# Posted: 27 Nov 2002 19:12
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Babel- y so negative on the episode Endgame :P , yes good ridence to hey-way-jane :k

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babel
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2002 02:40
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Lzr: Because though it was spectacular it had a plot more full of holes than a seive.

I have to say that re Kes, I was disappointed to see this increasingly interesting and potential-crammed character thrown away and replaced by Seven. I'd stuck with 'Voyager' thus far but I admit that I turned off after this point. It was a shame and after this, Voyager should have been renamed 'The Adventures of Seven aboard Voyager'. Anyone else feel this?



gentry
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2002 05:04
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*nods in agreement* i did, i admit i did like her (seven) a bit, i have not missed a eppie of boston public since she joined  :k  but ur right babel. And kes could have been cool.
Star Trek: Seven of of Nine in a sprayed on suit, designed by (of course) the doctor because, it was..."functional" - that it was *very eg* :k

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logan
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2002 17:56
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Okay, I have to agree with the Big B (Babel) here, Endgame was the best episode as it guaranteed the end of Voyager.  Although message in a bottle was a very good episode I have to say the series was poor and I was not disappointed to see it end one bit.  One of my biggest problem with it was the weak characters, and I think Janeway was the worst of all.  I could not stand her (and not because she was a woman before you lot dub me a sexist pig :P)  I thought she was a terrible character, she had virtually no development at all, and as a result became stagnant, but worst of all, her character did not fit her role, she was nothing short of a bad Captain, and that is what annoyed me the most.  All of the other Captains you have wanted to aspire to, unfortunately I fear that given the chance, Janeway could not so much as find her own arse with both hands and a hunting dog.  Then there was Chakotay, who's Character revolved around having a tatoo and Native American Religion, oh and lets not forget, HAVING A TATOO.  Then there was Tuvok, did anyone notice that Tuvok's growth ran pretty much Parallel to Spock's?  I was just waiting for him to die, and was dreading the part where he would be reborn again, if you ask me they should have left him as Tuvix.  Which brings me on to the over sized bunny rabbit, Gotta love Neelix, the man who could do everything (or nothing that a Delia Smith/Auto Route 2002 hybrid couldn't do)  I think his crowning glory had to be when he pronounced himself morale officer, well if that wasn't enough to make you want to kill yourself.  I don't think there was another point in the series where I hoped that the bridge would implode due to sub space stress, I was half expecting to hear a "G'night Jim-Bob" at the end of every episode from there on in.  Belanna next, I actually didn't find her so unbearable, an engineer with PMT, not exactly exciting either.  Her other half however, ergh, how irritating.  The bad boy that never really did anything bad.  What was with Captain Proton?  His character had less facets than a CD, how many episodes were based around what he had done in the Holodeck?  That, and he liked old things, which was fairly evident though from the plots of his episodes.  The Doctor, I liked his character at the start of the series, I liked his satire nature, right up until it turned to self centred, and then, he too became irritating.  It is really a shame as Bob Picardo is a good actor and there were so many more things they could have done with his Character.  Instead his driving force through the series was, to choose a name.  How about "Data Lite"?  On yes, Ensign Harry Kim, another Character that really didn't see a whole lot on the development side.  Well that is not entirely true, he did grow up a little between the start and the end of the series.  I liked Harry, it is a shame they never did more with him.  I think finally we have Seven of Nine.  Anyone think of two reasons why she was cast?  Actually I quite liked Seven, she was a no BS kind of character, not to mention the fact that I quite liked Seven :k  Some of her story lines were a bit hit and miss, but in comparison to the rest of the cast, a little more hit.  Oh and also almost as a guest star as she left early in the series, Kes.  Well, they really thought out her character well.  Did anyone ever clock the fact that her species should have been wiped out years back since each female can only have one child, so assuming that every woman actually fancied giving birth through their backs, it does mean that the species halves in size every generation, so she was kind of the character that never should have been and luckily never really was.



babel
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2002 02:45
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I have to applaud the big L, Logan, here for his accurate and hysterically funny diagnosis of Voyager. *LOL*

nina_janeway1
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2002 07:18
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<!--QuoteBegin--rick_hunter1+Nov. 21 2002,17:20--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (rick_hunter1 @ Nov. 21 2002,17:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Message in a bottle was cool. I like the one where they meet Captain Sulu on the Excelsior. Can't remember the name though.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>That was 3x02 Flashback.<br><br>and btw peeps, I've totally forgotten to check this thread since I started it! I am a hardcore Voyager fan and I like almost all eps, but don't think that I cannot be a critic anyway. <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--> Scorpion is another excellent ep of Voyager, and season 7 is the best season! Message in a Bottle was very good btw, I LOVED when the Doc met EMH 2! *lol* <br><br>Doc: "In English!"<br>EMH 2: "I'm just readin what it says here!"

nina_janeway1
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2002 07:20
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<!--QuoteBegin--rick_hunter1+Nov. 25 2002,16:36--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (rick_hunter1 @ Nov. 25 2002,16:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Babel - ooh, so harsh. But y'have a point.<br>It took Janeway 7 YEARS to get home.<br>Kirk or Picard could've done it in a couple hours.<br>It would've taken Sisko a few days.<br>And Archer, bah. He would've gotten his whole ship blown up in the first episode <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Excuse me, but aren't you forgetting something? The Voyager was lost in the Delta Quadrant ya know, and it was kinda difficult to get home in just a couple hours.<br><br>And Babel, <!--emo&:o--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ann.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':o'><!--endemo--> to you! *LOL* <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo-->

babel
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2002 08:03
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I dunno, I can't help thinking that Kirk would have made mincemeat out of the Kazon (come on, even Voyager fans have to admit that they were probably the worst Trek race ever) while Spock and Scotty figured out how to use the array and make sure it wasn't misused AFTER they had used it to get home.

I really don't see science officers these days on Starfleet ships to figure this kind of thing out. Where was Picard's science officer? He didn't have one - Data was the Chief of Operations. Neither did Voyager. It's odd. *shrugs* Spock's role as science officer seemed vitally important to the original Enterprise, surely not that much could have changed in a hundred years.

wedge
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2002 10:45
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Wasn't Ensign wildman the Science officer for Voyager? I don't know, i always thought that. Ds9 had a science officer ofc, and Enterprise has one. *shrugs* Anyway, 7 could kinda be considered voyagers science officer.....*thinks that the original science officer could have been killed when they were transported  to the delta qudrant?*

rick_hunter1
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2002 16:49
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<!--QuoteBegin--nina_janeway1+Dec. 03 2002,07:20--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (nina_janeway1 @ Dec. 03 2002,07:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Excuse me, but aren't you forgetting something? The Voyager was lost in the Delta Quadrant ya know, and it was kinda difficult to get home in just a couple hours.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I'm not forgetting. But are YOu forgetting that janeway could've used the array to get home. NOOOOOOOO she had to blow it up and save the Ocompa.<br><br>Kirk would've found a loophole in the StarFleet regs taht alowed him to abondon a race.<br>Picard would've done something about it and then used the array to get  home after putting timed charges on it to blow it up.<br>And Archer would've gotten blown up due to 5 minutes of indecision while the Kazon sieze the array and squik the Ocompa.

nina_janeway1
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2002 01:52
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<!--QuoteBegin--rick_hunter1+Dec. 03 2002,16:49--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (rick_hunter1 @ Dec. 03 2002,16:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm not forgetting. But are YOu forgetting that janeway could've used the array to get home. NOOOOOOOO she had to blow it up and save the Ocompa.<br><br>Kirk would've found a loophole in the StarFleet regs taht alowed him to abondon a race.<br>Picard would've done something about it and then used the array to get  home after putting timed charges on it to blow it up.<br>And Archer would've gotten blown up due to 5 minutes of indecision while the Kazon sieze the array and squik the Ocompa.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>That's because she was so determined to follow the Prime directive, and wasn't the situation a bit stressed? *L* Btw there wouldn't have been a show out of it, ya know! <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--><br>Also, even if she would have attempted to use the array to get home, she wouldn't have had the time or the ability to figure out the array, because there would have been a slight error somewhere preventing it.<br><br>And Babel, no I didn't like the Kazons very much, there are other races who are much better. And I haven't seen much of TOS so I can't make a detailed analysis of the show, though the few eps I've seen were really ridiculous. But that's not the issue here, it's Voyager.... <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

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