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maxwell
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2006 00:22
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Hi there,
Just curious to see how many people would be interested in a free Outpost / Sci Fi oriented blog. Yes, that's right, I said FREE! Blogs are online journals which have become very popular in the past year. Please select a response below to indicate if you would like such a blog.
Andrew
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lupus
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2006 02:20
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I love blogs.
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quincyw
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2006 04:19
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I'm going to play the part of something to let you explain the concept with a few questions.
1: How is the 10F blog going to be different to my Liverjournal/Xanga/myspace (etc)?
2: What features will the 10F blog offer? (eg avatars and whatever customisations)
3: How will the 10F blogs integrate with each other (eg by linking friend's ones) and with 10F in general?
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babel
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2006 05:19
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I think it's a good idea for a lot of people, yeah. I wouldn't be interested simply because I wouldn't want to be constrained by OTF PDs in my blog. I do have one and I wouldn't post some of the things I say (including the language I use! ) in OTF. But for others it's fine, yeah, a nice idea. 
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kittykat
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2006 05:29
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What quincy says 
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deanna
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2006 14:20
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I chose the I have a blog but not at OTF option as well. Same reasons as J...I don't want my personal journal to adhere to OTF's standards, which are wonderful for the community but constraining in a journal
Nice Idea, and I hope lots of people that are very into the whole Sci-Fi realm will get into it
Thanks for taking some opinions though. Enjoy!
~Kym
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lzrman
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2006 21:01
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I'm all for he offering of a "free" blog that is hosted by the Outpost, but I also agree with the points that J has pointed out, blogs are places to rant and specifically could on more then one occasion incure breaking the PD's.
Would the blog be associated with a users dossier? and if so how would it display? most recent topic links?
This is a wonderful idea and hopefully can be integrated nicely into the already perfect system we have here at the outpost.
Sincerly,
Lzrman
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lupus
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2006 10:56
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I think that they would be better used within dpts for reporting work. It easyer to see what everyone is doing in your team then.
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jpicard
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# Posted: 9 Jan 2006 15:20
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Hey!
I would love to see free blogs! My only concern is wouldn't that cost something we wouldn't make back with freeblogs?
~JP
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christena
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2006 11:11
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I would vote but for some reason it won't let me vote in polls anymore.. what is the deal with that? 
I would like a blog but ,again, I don't know if it would always stay within the PDs 
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babel
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2006 16:13
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<!--QuoteBegin--brady+Jan. 13 2006,16:05--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (brady @ Jan. 13 2006,16:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think we decided last time around that the PDs wouldn't apply as strictly to blogs and personal webpages as they do to, say, chat or forum posts.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>But they would still apply, to some degree? What degree? 'Not as strictly' is a very nebulous term.
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brady
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2006 16:16
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I think we decided last time around that the PDs wouldn't apply as strictly to blogs and personal webpages as they do to, say, chat or forum posts. Obviously we want people to be relatively free to express themselves in a blog without worrying too much about restrictions - on the other hand we wouldn't want to be linking to content that was too outragous either (eg. illegal).
Maybe we could even add a standard disclaimer frame to blogs when they are accessed from within the chat, forum or a dossier. Similar to the frame that appears when you access a member website from within the chat that provides links to the schematics and to information on the personal quarters. The blog frame could link to information on personal web account packages at 10F, and a link to a disclaimer page where the reader would be told that the blog has no official connection to Outpost 10F and that the opinions and comments expressed therein are not necessarily the opinions of the bodies that govern Outpost 10F.
Does this make any difference? Understandably sometimes you just like to keep things seperate, but I'd think this would be a happy and flexible half way point.
Re: Quincy's questions - The 10F blog packages run off a Wordpress Engine. Check out the website for some specifications. It's a very adaptable interface, and you can easily download different designs and configurations. I've opted for a plain style because I've integrated my blog into a framed frontpage - bradyjay.com - but there are HEAPS of different themes you can download, upload and apply with ease.
I hope that answers a few questions.
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brady
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2006 16:18
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*l* Yes, nebulous indeed. I suppose we'd have to discuss the specifics, but I'm just saying there would be some more flexibility in blogs than in chat posts. I'll put it to the EC and see what they say. =)
B
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hongjun
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2006 17:40
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hmm,
(offtopic)
okay I dunno if it is just me, but babel quoted and replied to Brady's post before brady posted.
Hmm just proving that babel is the Doctor!
Hong
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brady
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2006 19:08
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yeees... that was my fault. My original post had a coding error so I copied it, deleted it, corrected the error and reposted it. Jeremy just snuck in during the change. That's not to say he doesn't have control over time or anything.. 
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lzrman
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2006 21:56
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Question: how would that effect those users who currently pay for the Member Website Level 2 Package that includes a blog.
Lzrman
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babel
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2006 01:48
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<!--QuoteBegin--hongjun+Jan. 13 2006,17:40--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (hongjun @ Jan. 13 2006,17:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->hmm,<br><br>(offtopic)<br><br>okay I dunno if it is just me, but babel quoted and replied to Brady's post before brady posted.<br><br>Hmm just proving that babel is the Doctor!<br><br>Hong<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Sorry about that, got my coordinates a bit jumbled and I almost met myself coming!
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teekay
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2006 06:38
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Ooh! Suit you!
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david1
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2006 12:29
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Blogging is VERY popular, and considering this site is finding problems funding to pay for bandwidth usage and such, offering such a popular service will probabily increase the sites bandwidth by a LOT .. and considering you wish to offer it for free, its whoever is paying for the site bandwidth who will be paying for it, therfore technically not free!
makes another stupid point
XZ
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lzrman
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2006 23:51
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Hopefully people will support OTF and purchase a member account.
Lzrman
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kady
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# Posted: 20 Jan 2006 14:32
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<!--QuoteBegin--lupus+Jan. 09 2006,10:56--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (lupus @ Jan. 09 2006,10:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><font color= tan><br>I think that they would be better used within dpts for reporting work. It easyer to see what everyone is doing in your team then.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I think Lupus has an incredibly good idea!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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david1
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2006 05:14
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IDEAS
Maybe, make blogs free to only members of departments, make it a perk of joining any department.
XZ
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bria
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2006 08:09
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I'm in two minds. I have a blog, and if I had the option of tranferring it to OTF or something, I probably would. Likewise, if I had money, I'd be buying a web account here...
But, making blogs free would mean more bandwidth and less income, right? Maybe there's some kind of middle ground, ie, tying blogs that are hosted outside of OTF into one's OTF account. Say, if there was an option to link to it from a dossier, like we can with websites.
Or like XZ said, make it a part of joining a department. Or if you're promoted to a certain CL. Although that'd probably cause ranting again...
Also... making free blogs available to everyone would mean that even lamers can get one. More potential problems?
Just some thoughts!
Bria
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lzrman
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2006 23:38
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Departmental Perk's are Promotions in Clearance Level
- Having a Blog as a perk, is not something I would personnally support, due to financial issues it would present on the server, more bandwidth equals more end cost of running the server.
Clearance Level Privilage
- Various CL's give various privilages, CL4 is the first level armory, CL5 the second level armory, followed by CL6 html and third level armory, CL7 avatar and special location +1 armory. I don't see a spot to include the blog. As each level offers something special.
How does that effect those who pay for a Level 2 Member account?
- Is there more of a benefit to level 2 account holders, if the blog is introduced else where? do they get additive bonus' to there account?
Maybe there can be a way in the profile management system to add a few entries to the "users" dossier? Instead of making a whole elaborate system which is currently being used on the members sites.
- User views "patrons" dossier and somewhere in there is a few articles they have written in the past few days? this could be a possible replacement  for the whole free blog idea.
The idea is sound and I'm at a neutral stand still on the whole idea. More thoughts are welcomed.
Lzrman
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kady
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2006 16:37
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Giving free blogs would be an incentive for CL 2 and CL 3 peeps to be more active and patronize OTF more, though. Remember being these CLs and wanting to fit in and yet everyone around you had all these cool gadgets to play with and you were left out? Perhaps by adding more responsibility besides just chatting, we could get more members. Don't we need more members, because the more people we have and the more people buying web space equals the more money for OTF?
What about letting people apply for a free blog and in that blog they have to specify their ideas for it and submit their work? Then, they can be approved or denied. Kinda like departmental work, only instead of working to build something so public like a department, they'd be responsible for their own little blog. Then, CL promos and admission to a department would be based on the work they've already created in the blog.
This would be different from submitting work from outside sources because everything they do on the blog can be seen by OTF members and new people not familiar with the site would get "hooked" on reading and keeping up with the blogs.
What do you think? Am I way off with this one?
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hongjun
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2006 18:06
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Hmm,
I think I just want to say that making the blog a perk of working in a department is a bad idea to be honest.
As is making a blog become work, it kind of misses the point of having a blog at all.
Hong
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kady
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2006 07:39
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<!--QuoteBegin--hongjun+Jan. 25 2006,18:06--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (hongjun @ Jan. 25 2006,18:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hmm,<br><br>I think I just want to say that making the blog a perk of working in a department is a bad idea to be honest.<br><br>As is making a blog become work, it kind of misses the point of having a blog at all.<br><br>Hong<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>But, the person could choose anything she/he wanted to explore then just submit the plan and design according to previous specs. The caliber of her/his work would be judged and displayed for the rest of the community. By asking each person to submit an application you'd be limiting the amount of space you're using and ensuring each one meets the prime directives. You'd also encourage newbies that have potential and are not just lamers to get more involved, which I think is something we all want.
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citron
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2006 09:20
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<!--QuoteBegin--lzrman+Jan. 24 2006,23:38--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (lzrman @ Jan. 24 2006,23:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Clearance Level Privilage<br>- Various CL's give various privilages, CL4 is the first level armory, CL5 the second level armory, followed by CL6 html and third level armory, CL7 avatar and special location +1 armory. I don't see a spot to include the blog. As each level offers something special.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Each level can have more than one perk.<br><br>I'm just glad you're not the one who decides this sort of thing <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo-->
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lzrman
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2006 10:19
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Joining OTF and reciving a blog as a perk could be kewl, you only get Bar access and whats the fun in that?!
Lzrman
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david1
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2006 11:56
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instead of a blob ... why not have a today and yesterday thoughts thing in the Dossier? ... use much less bandwidth, but it would be a place where people can post their own thoughts, rarther then a full blown blog.
XZ
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