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xmtg27
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2006 19:50
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I remember the quote quite clearly. I was askng for a time
(in BNT ofcourse) of when it goes, because I don't want to be caught offgaurd. Now I'm not sure at all, so we really need a time and date. Since theres rumors of sunday and monday and kyp talked of saturday...
Also, whens the round end, I'm not asking because I'm bored or anything like that. Just cause i need to know if I can build lots of planets and have time for them to grow. Just keep us posted, thanks...
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kingbob
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 11:18
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it is getting very close till we can attack and i am looking for some scouts every scout will be payed very well  if your intrested PM me in game thanks
.freter.
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david1
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 11:31
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there are no scouts ... some of mine might work for you, but youll get filtered scout info ... i let them do that lol.
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kingbob
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 11:48
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ok listen up all you scouting for xz i will pay you double what ever he is paying you for scouting   how much are you paying them xz? lol
.freter.
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david1
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 11:55
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they have worked for me for about 3 or 4 rounds. they get protection and training, they never ask for money but if they ever do i give.  ...
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kingbob
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 12:02
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xz's scouts did you hear that? "they never ask for money but if they ever do i give" bleed him dry ask for money and lots of it if he wont give you really cant trust him and should scout for me instead lol 
.freter.
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sylvius
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 12:05
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Do your business David! *lol*
Get the money!
Sylvius
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david1
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 12:37
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haha lol
is waiting.
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xmtg27
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 15:11
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lol, I'll scan for 130 quint or so. can anyone other than me afford that?
jk, but if anyone does scout and finds me a bank I'll pay 20 quint if its more than that and i can take it. just for those of you who don't know what 20 quint is; 20,000,000,000,000,000,000. Thats enough to have all lv. 50's. The price goes up the bigger the bank.
Yeah, didn't think of that, let me restate. Any bank sector...
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david1
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2006 17:22
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what you dont know is the biggest bank you can get is 9.2 quint haha
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strongmad
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2006 16:21
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maybe i'm stupid and am the only one that doesn't know this yet, but i was wondering when the new update will be and what rules will the game go by... just some questions from lil old me
so when ¿ ¿ ¿
strongmad...
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methos
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2006 18:03
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First off this round has only been going for 3 weeks. I am not restarting this soon. Mabye 2 more weeks.
Next....effective from this point on in this and all future rounds, as long as I have any say in BNT, if you join and team and then leave that team without a valid reason then Webmaster will come and inflict great pain on you. There will be no more cheap tricks like someone being a part of a team long enough to gain inside information and then defecting to another team and giving up that information. If this happens you will loose planets and will be destroyed to the point where you will think twice about such underhanded tactics. That is all.
Kyp
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seele01
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2006 20:46
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If you are referring to the circle alliance, then there was no inside information that was taken or given up. Planet locations were found because we scouted and found them.
Yes its not nice to leave an alliance and start attacking those members but its happened many times before and is just part of the game.
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crazedbama
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2006 21:27
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<!--QuoteBegin--methos+April 14 2006,18:03--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (methos @ April 14 2006,18:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->First off this round has only been going for 3 weeks. I am not restarting this soon. Mabye 2 more weeks.<br><br>Next....effective from this point on in this and all future rounds, as long as I have any say in BNT, if you join and team and then leave that team without a valid reason then Webmaster will come and inflict great pain on you. There will be no more cheap tricks like someone being a part of a team long enough to gain inside information and then defecting to another team and giving up that information. If this happens you will loose planets and will be destroyed to the point where you will think twice about such underhanded tactics. That is all.<br><br>Kyp<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>seriously, you are wayyyyyyy out of line to say something like that. there are no rules about alliance etticate in otf bnt laws. if you have your own personal issues with people, then you do your best to attack them yourself. if you cant do that then you just shut up and play the game. as its been said, its part of the game and it always has been. you trying to implement a rule like this shows how serious your personal involment is with this game and shows without a shadow of a doubt how horrible you are being a mod.<br><br>so far, every "idea" youve had has failed horribly. you are 100% the WORST mod EVER. lets see your genius ideas.....<br><br>-Lets make the planets max out credits after 1 week, that way the round will be tons of fun by the 3rd or 4th week!!!<br>-Lets make 8000 sectors so that the remaining 15 people that actually play this game will be forced to search thru an extra 3000 sectors to have a chance to have a challenging and exciting round.<br>-Lets change the interest rate every single round so you never what it is until the round ends 2 months early due to bad moderating.<br>-Lets ban all yahoo accounts because they are the ONLY free accounts ANYONE CAN POSSIBLY EVER GET! so EVERYONE that has a yahoo email is OBVIOUSLY a cheater!!!!!! (truely genius idea kyp)<br>-The SOFA code is like a box of chocolates... You never know what youre going to get. Well at least as kyp is the mod thats the case.<br>-Lets ban attacking for the first week or so!!! Thats a great idea!!! Lets also ban sofas, and scans while we're at it. Lets also ban anyone whos ever won a round. No one but noobs allowed!!! sounds fun!!!<br><br>I have never spoken with kyp personally, though if I ever did I know it would be a very humorous experience. Kyp is the worst mod of any forum/network/game i've ever seen. I love BNT, especially on OTF but i will NEVER play so long as Kyp is mod or has any say in BNT operations. dont think im like xz and im saying this without meaning it, bnt just loses all fun and interest when kyp touches it. <br><br>OTF BNT has had its issues in the past, but since Kyp has taken over it has been constant numerous problems every single round. even the most "normal" round he ever had had so many problems he gave up on it and closed it weeks early, contradicting reports he made that he would close even several weeks earlier than that.<br><br>When Kyp moderates, the game is a joke, this round is a perfect example. So PLEASE<br>AJ<br>TIDUS<br>or any mod/admin....<br>please muzzle kyp. all he needs to do is reset the game and delete cheaters. stop changing the rules, stop ****ing with the code, you know we all hate it. youve driven everyone away. the only way to get BNT to have 400+ players like it had last summer is to get it back to the old ways and keep it hacker free, and keep it that way. and with kyp at the helm, that will never happen.<br><br>with kyp as mod, King Pin shall never play again.<br>Im sure there are many that feel the way i do,<br>Speak up and share your opinions, or just show them the way the rest of us have, quit visisting OTF forever.
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methos
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2006 21:56
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As I have said repeatedly, I am doing different things each round trying to find a balance that is fair for ALL players not just the experienced ones. There is no personal involvement whatsoever. I don't play here I play at other servers and if I see something that may work here on those servers I give it a go here. The high interest rate is a no go so it wont be that high any longer but I wanted to see how it went over.
The 8000 sectors has showed promise and is one thing that will stay. This way the less experienced players have a better chance of surviving and not losing everything in the first 2 weeks of the game.
People complained about the high interest rate so I changed it last week at their request, and this was 3 or 4 people on the forums and about 5 others on msn.
The yahoo accounts were the only way to make sure we didn't have the same situation before as we can't just ban multiple IP adresses without it affecting legitimate players and chatters on the server.
The SOFA code is the same used on several other servers. I got the copy from scourge force and compared it to other admins on other servers....it is exactly the same.
The no attacking during the first week also seemed to have the desired effect so it will also stay.
The feeling on you and I speaking one on one is mutual. I tend to have little to no patience for someone that rants because I am trying to find a balance for future rounds. This takes time and will mean a few rounds will have things that wont work. You have never contributed any ideas, you have just whined and complained incessantly hence you obviously have no worthwhile ideas for the game unless they are something that you agree with and any ideas you don't like aren't even worth looking at as helpful in the long run. This is your thought patterns and are childish and a waste of air.
With me as mod you will never play again? Please don't tease me, you know where the door is, feel free to use it.
Kyp
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krillen488
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2006 22:04
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to be honest King Pin, i back Kyp trying ut these new ideas to find a Balance, the thing is when you have players like me, you, Con, Freter, and Exo on one server... we hav an unfair advantage over all the other players, we get a killer start and their round is over... so while yes the past few rounds havn't been going over well, i agree with continuing to try and find a middle ground.. and as for the Yahoo accounts, i agree with the idea, you can get G-mail easy as pie if you contact Kyp, he'll send you and Invite and problem solved, and you can also get Hotmail... i've had one for ages. So in essence what i'm saying is that Kyp is staying, and if that means you leaving then i'm sorry to see such a good player leave for such a horrible reason
~Tidus~
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david1
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2006 23:02
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I dont like this idea.
Im not being told how to enjoy the game, next you will be telling people how to play? forcing them to not use to many turns a day or such ...
This has all sprung out of me leaving MFR, and that MFR wont win this rounds top allience.
But Blerb This Was a game.
But i dont care... spoken to Kyp on msn ... Hes just probing ideas ... lol
Allthough the server attack file is still messed up *coughs the fact hes killed 3/4 ships, and his ship kill is STILL set at 0 lol*
If you truly want to give the nOObs a chance ... FORCE alliences ...
Do it this way let everyone pre-register, and then set all the experienced players into an allience with 2 nOObs, (maybe get some other otfers to play?) ... FORCE it (edit the allience file so people cant leave or get kicked) ... and also keep the allow money transfers from allience planets (force all planets to be automatically corporate) ... and this will make the game more enjoyable. lmao
As for punishing someone for leaving an allience ...
case1
XZ - I left because they where scouting my planets
Mysterious Peep - No we wernt we just accidently passed through your sectors
case2
XZ - The helped sofa a planet of mine
Mysterious Peep - No we didnt, your just paranoid
case3
XZ - I knew there banks and wanted to take them
Mysterious Peep - GIMME THEM BACK!
Tidus LOVES doing that to allies
case4
XZ - Most of my old freinds are back in the game and i want to rejoin back up with them
case5
XZ - this allience isnt working no ones co-operating, everyone being selfish and using the fact im in the allience, they arnt helping though
case6
XZ - My ally caused a whole allience (top players i.e. top 3) to take out an vendetta on us, i need safty, if im in the allience i wont survive the night
How would those cases be dealt with?
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nickk
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 03:48
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Wow, i dont check these forums for abit a week or so and i miss a hell of alot! Now i think ill add the old Whitty input to these discussions.
As far as the rounds have gone lately there have been alot of problems regarding attack codes and numerous other aspects of this game. Now i admit that certain things needed to be experimented with etc so that you know whether they work or not and i have no real problem with that as they were all small things, besides the Sofa code which even then there were ways round the bugs. As kingpin stated there are very small numbers of BNT players in these rounds now and it is more likely the better and more experienced players will rule as there is less competition but this is no fault of the good players and i do feel that Davids idea of having set alliances would be very good. It worked during the race wars all that time ago and the teams were very even, and it helped developed some of the players that play here today.
The interest set for this round is silly, but there is no real excuse there as it has been played around with before, when i won the round in about a week (im sure people remember this) and it was made quite clear that the interest should not really be messed with. The idea of 8000 sectors is a good idea if there are more players but when there are so few players atually participating in these rounds it becomes very tedious and to find anything is quite an achievement.
The problem with multi accounting is also a problem but i stand neutral here as kingpin is right banning all yahoo email is not particually the best idea as these multi accounters can still go and get hotmail, gmail, lycos and numerous other accounts so by blocking one email provider it doesnt really achieve too much.
In conclusion, i feel that there needs to be another big race war type round that is advertised before the reset and start of this. Last time such a game was operated it brought alot of players in and the teams can be put together to contain the right mix of experience and then the lower ranked players, splitting up names like Kingpin, XZ, Xpanding Con, Tidus etc would mean that these top players are in competition and they will be helping the other members of their alliance in order to take each other down. Kingpin i know we had some great times working together and i have to admit fighting against you last round was a challenge i have not faced for a long time so i would hate to see somebody with your skills leave in this fashion. If anybody else has any feedback on this type of round please post because i would certainly come back for this sort of round!
~Whitty
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egmond1981
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 08:47
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Hello...
I have been watching the forums for a while now.
Looks like this round is not what people expected.
I have my own opinion about certain aspects of the game...and everybody knows I ain't a big friend of the admins here.
But to act like out good friend(ouch) King Pin is below me...
The intrest thing is a mistake if you ask me...Set it and keep it. And keep it at a normal level.
Also 8000 sectors is to much. Kyp said it would help new players to stay safe, but with the low amound of players this new system draws in I don't think that argument is realy valuable.
Also penaltys for leaving your alliance? That is realy nuts...Just keep the alliance system as it is and all will turn out fine.
At the moment I am seeing the game die slowly...
But I heard a great idea...Start a new race war. Like the last one.
People are placed in alliances at trandom. maybe we can even assign races at random.
This way people have to work together to win, and even new players have a chance.
if that works out right you could even discard the normal rounds and play only race wars...
Can you guys consider this?
Remulus
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sispacey
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 09:45
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I took myself out of the game after getting bored of these round as the interest rates changing mid way thorugh the round spoilt it for me, before anyone says anything about needing over 1800 planets to make points well my response is build them if you can't defend them well enough - well tough really you said you were wanting a challenge.
instead of just moaning about what is not right, and kyp i'm not sure how easy this would be to implement, but how about researching the race wars idea.
we have 4 different races, can we not implent into the sign up process where the game randomly gives a player a race.
This race then cannot attack their own race and the alliances can only be made up of players from the same race.
For example:
I sign up and get giving the race of jedi
Jolvoc signs up and gets given the race of jedi
XZ signs up and gets bounty hunter
I can then be in an alliance with Jolvoc but I CANNOT attack his ship or his planets.
Both Jolvoc and I can attack XZ but cannot be in the same alliance as him.
Just an idea
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krillen488
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 10:06
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Ok Guys, i will use ALL THE POWER I HAVE, to amke sure all these ideas are looked at. I did like the race war seeing as it made it fun and interesting. Over the next 2 weeks or so while this round is slowly ending i will go over these Idea's with Kyp and see which ones sound possible, and which ones just aren't going to happen. I would appreciate it if you guys could be Patient with this process and try not to bash the game anymore than has already been done, we're working real hard on getting ways to get our registration back up to around 300-400 if ANYONE has suggestions, valid ones without sarcasm, then they will be considered. Thank you all.
~Tidus~
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egmond1981
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 12:29
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Hello Tidus(krillen), Kyp, anyone out there.
I will try to tell you guys what I think is wrong with the game without accusing or blaming people...
The games that had many people in it where games that where old stile. No tweaking the game to make it more safe for Noobs and so on. The reason it was fun was because people fought among eachother. Each good player had a chance to win and so they fought other good players instead of the noobs. maybe we didn't have 300 active players, but we had over 50 active in the end.
Now the game is being changed every round. People don't know what to expect and new players stop playing after one round. I think the first thing we need to take care of is making people stay after one round.
We need to give them a stable game. So we need to set up coding that will last. No experiments but a regular game.
Take a look at the intrest rates. Most times I see a planet intrest rate of 0.03 and a IGB intrest rate of 0.02. This is a nice amound I think...
Maybe we should keep it that way. Most people who have played at other places know the amounds and it will make them feel at home. at least make sure that is you don't have an IGB cap you don't make both intrest rates the same. and if you do have an IGB cap make sure you place it at the settings page.
The sector amound. Suddenly it has been changed to 8.000 sectors. I don't think this will make the game more fun anyhow. Just get it back to 5.000 again and we have a regular galaxy size. This way no one can realy hide...
The acount banning thing? Why did you block only Yahoo accounts? Is it proven that most cheaters use yahoo accounts or is it just a gues? And if so? Don't you think that if people realy want to cheat they can get an hotmail or gmail accont just as easy? I think it is better to have some more people checking the game for cheaters and accepting all e-mail accounts. I think there are enough people willing to help you out there.
Colonist limit? I have played many diffirent servers. some had 10 billion colonists as limit, some only 100 million. The reason I liked playing at the outpost was that it was diffirent. 200.000.000 colonists and a nice graphical layout. So I would sugest to bring it all back. take it down to 200 million again like we are used to.
Last thing I would like to talk about is the race wars. It realy seems that people enjoyed it. The base of the racewars was great...it made a perfect oportunity to have noobs learn from the pro's. I sugested earlyer that you should try to assign races to people randomly. We could create more races if there are more players active, but in the start we should keep it at 4 races.
If we make a racewar we will have a need for alliance leaders. I don't have a perfect solution for that, but maybe Ypou could ask 10 players who you believe have a good knowledge about the game to tell you who they thinks should lead an alliance. Then ask those people if they want to lead an alliance and if not move on one spot on the list.
Like I said, it isn't perfect, but it's just a sugestion.
That was it for today. Like I said, this are only sugestions, but if you are willing to listnen it might make the game better again.
If I can help you guys by any means, just tell me.
-Remulus-
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xmtg27
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 13:21
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Okay, its time I put in my bit. I love BNT, I've played every round for almost a year (i wonder if thats a little sad...). Its a great game every round, but I have to admit that the old rounds were more fun. I liked the setting, I liked the players, and I liked the game. Believe it or not, I once was a noob but I learned. Now I have a few tricks I'm sure some of the top players don't know. Although I'm still nieve to some things as well, I know the game fairly well.
Thats why I think, and it appears its well liked, that we should just try a round with the old rules, and I mean all the old ones. I also like the race war idea, it sounds great.
I really do appretiate some of the changes and the reasons, but noobs don't need protection, they need mentors. Seele01 already tried this round to help, and I'm always trying. There isn't a very good tuturial for this game and a lot of things go unmentioned. Half the new players dont know who to ask for help or how to start. They end up as XZ's scanners and never learn anything,
So if you do start a new round I hope you really think about making it normal, then have votes for changes. Also, I'll offer to help out as best I can. If you need anything, such as a tuturial written up or anything like that. I only know html so I don't think I can mod or anything but I'll still help if needed. Thanks.
Exo III
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david1
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 16:45
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<!--QuoteBegin--xmtg27+April 15 2006,13:21--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (xmtg27 @ April 15 2006,13:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I really do appretiate some of the changes and the reasons, but noobs don't need protection, they need mentors. Seele01 already tried this round to help, and I'm always trying. There isn't a very good tuturial for this game and a lot of things go unmentioned. Half the new players dont know who to ask for help or how to start. They end up as XZ's scanners and never learn anything, <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> <br><br>So if you do start a new round I hope you really think about making it normal, then have votes for changes. Also, I'll offer to help out as best I can. If you need anything, such as a tuturial written up or anything like that. I only know html so I don't think I can mod or anything but I'll still help if needed. Thanks.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>gary scanned for me... now look at him... hes a good player <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--><br><br>Anyway im a scouting player myself <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--> and i never take on nOObs lol, the same scouts ive used for many rounds now ... given the odd creds for valid info but other then that i never take onboard nOObs<br><br>as for seele's training allience ... me and seele did that a few rounds ago, but it never took off.<br><br>As for a tutorial system... krillen knows im working on one, hehe. and hes absing it by using it to an advantage while others still dont know of its excistance yet.<br><br>Gary trained up using this system though... and look at him... quite a good player now isnt he????<br><br>hehe<br><br><i>evilness</i><br><br><b>XZ</b>
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david1
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 16:47
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I think Kyp shoul do at least one thing, make planet size proportonate to galaxy size... the bigger the galaxy the smaller the planets ... since people will have more places to hide the planets!!!
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krillen488
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2006 22:14
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i'd hardly say i'm "abusing it" since others have access to it as well
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david1
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# Posted: 16 Apr 2006 02:57
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ah... youve been giving it around without asking ...
you'll have to wait for final version now 
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david1
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# Posted: 16 Apr 2006 03:18
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<!--QuoteBegin--krillen488+April 15 2006,10:06--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (krillen488 @ April 15 2006,10:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->we're working real hard on getting ways to get our registration back up to around 300-400 if ANYONE has suggestions, valid ones without sarcasm, then they will be considered.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>After looking around a few servers, its gunan be tough since not many people play the game that often these days... people get fed up of cheating in the game, <b><font color="red">you yourself</font></b> have been abusing a bug in this game for many rounds finding ports without costing turns (i still have that msn convo saved lmao), but you have said youve told kyp (only after i told you it was cheatign though <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo-->), i dont think there is even a player in this round who hasnt cheated in one way or another.<br><br>like heres one a lot of players is using right now for buying mines<br><br><a href="http://blacknova.outpost10f.com/port2.php?dev_minedeflector_number=1000000000000" target="_blank">http://blacknova.outpost10f.com/port2.p....0000000</a><br><br>(since so many people are using that, i only think it fair that everyone else should knwo it and be able to use it)<br><br>mainly because there is a field limit which irritates people when they come to buy mine deflectors, and most people are learning the code to build scripts to get around things ... its easy to stop people doing it, but not without a lot of coding/patience!!!!<br><br>New people are hard to encourage to play the game, like otf has a large member list... why not ask the general otfers to see why they dont play the game... maybe due to not having he time to play it... ? maybe because there are too many experienced players... ? maybe because theres too much cheating ... just one of those 3 reasons would stop people using the game, <br><br>What is this games appeal???<br><br>in its hayday, it was somthing new, fun, most people where inexperienced, it was enjoyable to play.<br><br>The game hasnt changed (changing a bunch of small numbers like interests rates planet sizes doesnt count) ... it needs somthing new to help it stand out of the crowd, to make players from other servers to want to come and play it, otherwise too must dust will be gathering over it.<br><br>Kyps idea of bringing the nova weapon from aat over, woul be a good thing ... but im sure its slow progress, and since its an aat thing... nothing new ... considering a lot of bnt players converted to aat ... and the next version of aat ... is going to be phenominal ... ...<br><br>best thing is to keep is simple, fun, addictive.<br><br><b>XZ</b>
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xpanding_con
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2006 08:56
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Kyp et al
How about a delayed start for the best players.
Say the top 10 people of the last round, start a day or 2 later then everyone else?
This would give the less experienced players a chance to start and make the top 10 players work harder for a victory.
I know it could be gotten around, with 2 different accounts etc but just an idea to put into the pot.
XP
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crazedbama
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2006 10:28
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<!--QuoteBegin--methos+April 14 2006,21:56--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (methos @ April 14 2006,21:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->As I have said repeatedly, I am doing different things each round trying to find a balance that is fair for ALL players not just the experienced ones. There is no personal involvement whatsoever. I don't play here I play at other servers and if I see something that may work here on those servers I give it a go here. The high interest rate is a no go so it wont be that high any longer but I wanted to see how it went over. <br><br>The 8000 sectors has showed promise and is one thing that will stay. This way the less experienced players have a better chance of surviving and not losing everything in the first 2 weeks of the game.<br><br>People complained about the high interest rate so I changed it last week at their request, and this was 3 or 4 people on the forums and about 5 others on msn.<br><br>The yahoo accounts were the only way to make sure we didn't have the same situation before as we can't just ban multiple IP adresses without it affecting legitimate players and chatters on the server.<br><br>The SOFA code is the same used on several other servers. I got the copy from scourge force and compared it to other admins on other servers....it is exactly the same.<br><br>The no attacking during the first week also seemed to have the desired effect so it will also stay.<br><br>The feeling on you and I speaking one on one is mutual. I tend to have little to no patience for someone that rants because I am trying to find a balance for future rounds. This takes time and will mean a few rounds will have things that wont work. You have never contributed any ideas, you have just whined and complained incessantly hence you obviously have no worthwhile ideas for the game unless they are something that you agree with and any ideas you don't like aren't even worth looking at as helpful in the long run. This is your thought patterns and are childish and a waste of air.<br>With me as mod you will never play again? Please don't tease me, you know where the door is, feel free to use it.<br><br>Kyp<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Sorry for all the words people, but they help get the point across...<br> <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--> <br> <br>You said you wanted to make 8000 sectors because you saw how easy it was for XZ to get scans of 4000 sectors. Believe me it wasn't easy, it was an organized grueling process that several people committed a lot of effort to. They didn't even get to scan the last 1000. If you think adding 3000 sectors eliminates him being able to get a galaxy scan then you're wrong. He will just get a few extra scouters or spend more time scanning. Any one can do it with a few friends in a few hours. When you expand the galaxy to 8000, all you're doing is making it harder for the single players out there, which most "inexperienced" players are. So the very people you're trying to help are going to find it harder to play the game because they can't find anyone to attack. All players overall can't find anyone to attack, thus making the game 67.5% more boring. If anything you should reduce the amount of sectors, due to lower amount of players as of late.<br><br>People complained about the high interest rate so you changed it? People have complained every single round about the rates being off, so why would you think this round would have been different?<br><br>The yahoo accounts were not "the only way to make sure we didn't have [multiple accounts]", simply for the fact that it doesn't make sure of that at all. That was a bad idea, we all know it, there really is no way to assure there aren't multiple accounts besides thourough checking of login times, IPs, emails, and scores, on a constant basis. Any multiple account security plan you put in effect could easily be circumvented. Don't beat yourself up over it, its just reality.<br><br>As long as you just keep the standard sofa code as other servers and don't touch it at all, in theory it should be fine.<br><br>No attacking during the first week is also something that helps the "experienced" players more than the noobs. If a player has a strong sense of the mathematics of the game, then he can make a formula for mass producing planets with the maximum rate of colonist reproduction with ease. The only thing stopping a player like this is having to worry about defenses in the first few days. Take away that concern, and an experience player can get a huge headstart and outrun the noobs before they even got to there tenth planet.<br><br>I don't rant. As you can see by my first comment about your moderating, it got an added bonus of sparking a nice discussion on positive criticism and good ideas for the next rounds. I only whine and I don't contribute ideas??? I've been contributing ideas for over a year and they never get listened to, you should do your homework before making sweeping generlizations about someone. I'll give you some basic examples, there are many many I could link but I won't waste all our time<br>Ideas:<br><a href="http://www.outpost10f.com/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=ST;f=27;t=7562" target="_blank">http://www.outpost10f.com/cgi-bin....;t=7562</a><br><a href="http://www.outpost10f.com/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=ST;f=27;t=5539" target="_blank">http://www.outpost10f.com/cgi-bin....;t=5539</a><br>Helping others:<br><a href="http://www.outpost10f.com/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=ST;f=27;t=7674" target="_blank">http://www.outpost10f.com/cgi-bin....;t=7674</a><br><a href="http://www.outpost10f.com/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=ST;f=27;t=7654" target="_blank">http://www.outpost10f.com/cgi-bin....;t=7654</a><br>Not to mention helping exo with his loan problem.<br><br>I do a lot more than "rant"<br>Call me childish all you want, it doesn't change the fact that your "ideas" are ruining bnt.<br><br>As with some of the good ideas I've been hearing from the experienced players, I like what I hear. Remulus is very experienced and he shares the same ideas about game settings that I do. I think a race war would be the one true way to bring back the popularity of BNT. Announce it on the OTF updates page, or in other forums. Then split up the experienced players amoung each race, maybe by having an early registration and then communicating with the big names to see which team they would want to be with. Make sure that they are somewhat balanced in terms of experience, then let everyone else sign up and be randomly assigned a team. There will be no switching teams, so the big names will be stuck with the new guys, and be forced to train them, to help them. This is the only way to help the inexperienced. Every round I get begged for credits from new people, and if I give it to them, they message me the next day saying they blew up trying to attack someone 30 ranks higher than them and asks for more credits. Game settings or game changes WON'T HELP NOOBS. It's not that they dont win because everyone else is too good, it's because they don't learn how to play. Usually it's because they don't try to learn, sometimes they just need a mentor. Those that don't try to learn, you can't help them. I was a noob once, we were all noobs once, but what makes me different is I researched the hell out the game, I really wanted to learn how it works. And I got good. It's not because the interest rate was adjusted to help me, or because no one could attack me the first 10 days. I hope you understand where I'm coming from with this Kyp, I'm reaching out to you here. They need guidance, not game settings. A race war would help. I would love to see this happen. And the thought of having my own race to command, train, and dominate with.... well that's just too good to pass up<br> <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> <br> <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> <br> <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> <br>-=King Pin=-
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