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kady
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2006 17:50
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I'm Irish. I have the red hair. Though, some will swear it's strawberry blonde....I claim them both to be red. But, when I say, "kiss Me I'm Irish!" to the hot boy he just goes on with his business. 
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bria
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2006 18:03
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I thought you were American. 
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kady
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2006 20:38
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<!--QuoteBegin--bria+Feb. 06 2006,18:03--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (bria @ Feb. 06 2006,18:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><font color=#9999ff>I thought you were American. <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo--></font><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Yes, I live in the US. But, my anscestors were Irish. Doesn't that make me Irish? <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo-->
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majin_fett
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2006 22:41
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I'm too lazy to read all the above posts. 
I have mixed feelings about Valentine's Day. I like it because for some reason, all the woman look hotter than ever.  I dislike it because I don't gots me a girlfriend to hug.
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polgara
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 05:21
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 ey when did this become a topic about Irish or non Irish 
I thought we were all gonna let our enraged feelings about V-day flow 
*ps. Hugs MAjin*
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cellucci2
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 05:46
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I wouldn't mind V-day too much, if it wasn't all lovey dovey and all
I could go for some hulaing on the 14th though
But thats about it
Moon *hugs Polgara*
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polgara
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 05:51
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recently my feeeling about V-day have turned....i met Moon who brightened my world
*is open to suggestions on 14th*
 @Moon
*pinches Moon back*
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hobbie
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 07:14
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I have ancestors from ten or fifteen different country. What does that make me, apart from a mess?
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kady
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 09:47
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<!--QuoteBegin--hobbie+Feb. 07 2006,07:14--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (hobbie @ Feb. 07 2006,07:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have ancestors from ten or fifteen different country. What does that make me, apart from a mess? <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Perhaps a Heinz57? <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo-->
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katrina
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 10:34
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I think 's odd to be ticked off by a marketing gimmick thingie that's pretty. Nobody's going "you should be with someone!" They're just going "show someone you care!"... surely that's not such a bad message.
And while I agree that if you love someone, you love them always, some people (insert random big macho-type guy here) need to have an excuse for being "soft."
Also, stores would not sell all this stuff if people wouldn't buy it. They put it out earlier because they have a "seasonal" section and it's better to go ahead and put stuff there than to let it sit empty for several weeks. It's common marketing practice.
I like Valentine's day - always have, with boyfriend, husband or nobody. But then to me it'll always just be the day before my birthday, and I like the pinks and lilacs and whites that get tossed around.
But yeah, I'll let you all get back to ranting about whether or not Kady is Irish and how much valentine's day sucks. Pretend I didn't say anything.
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bria
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 15:22
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I'm not really ticked off with it. I mean, I don't much care what people do as long as I don't have to join in... but the fact is that it makes people feel bad 'cause they're alone or whatever. That's not just because of the day itself, I suppose, the day just brings it to the point. There's a whole lot of factors in there, but no one's interested in my anthropological and philosophical rambling, so I'll shut up about it.
And as far as I'm concerned, if you're born in Portugal, you're Portuguese. I'm born in Germany, so I'm German. Ray's from France, so he's French. I don't get the whole "I'm 1/8 French and 1/4 Irish and 3/8 Finnish" - I mean, what, you have a French foot and Irish knees and Finnish shoulders and arms? It just confuses matters.
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katrina
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 17:50
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<!--QuoteBegin--bria+Feb. 07 2006,15:22--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (bria @ Feb. 07 2006,15:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><font color=#9999ff> but no one's interested in my anthropological and philosophical rambling, so I'll shut up about it.<font><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Yeah, that was pretty much what I figured about my own ramblings, also the reason I shut up.<br><br>But I wholeheartedly agree with everything else you've said - with the exception of Irish/Greek/Portugese/whatever ancestry being invalid. People need to know where they've come from, psychologically and physically. There's a bit of German somewhere in my mother's side of the family which apparently lent us some hereditary leg weakening ....thing. <br><br>Dunno. But sometimes it is valid. Though yes, you are still the nationality of wherever you are born - unless you have a dual citizenship from birth (for example)<br><br><br>Whee, yes, too much rambling now. Must shut myself up. Will go sleep now. Sorry. *abandons thread*
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citron
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2006 18:30
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<!--QuoteBegin--bria+Feb. 07 2006,15:22--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (bria @ Feb. 07 2006,15:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><font color=#9999ff><br>And as far as I'm concerned, if you're born in Portugal, you're Portuguese. I'm born in Germany, so I'm German. Ray's from France, so he's French. I don't get the whole "I'm 1/8 French and 1/4 Irish and 3/8 Finnish" - I mean, what, you have a French foot and Irish knees and Finnish shoulders and arms? It just confuses matters. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--></font><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Exactly *nods* Which is why when people ask me what I am, I answer Canadian... when they ask "no really, what are you?" I reply again that I'm Canadian. <br>Then they walk away and never speak to me again <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--> hence... the no friends business <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--><br><br>But yeah.. no more rambling
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nicoll
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 01:46
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Well if we really want to talk about what you are then it's best to say that we all part of a species with an exceptionally shallow gene pool due to inbreeding between the very small population in prehistoric Africa from which we are all descended. (That senstence is too long but I'm not really in the mood to edit it, I also never checked any of the spelling or even read it )
I don't know where in Africa this was but as far as I'm concerned you are all Swahili.
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polgara
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 05:47
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i object
i'm from the planet PINK
*smacks Furr*
this whole disgussion is so not relevant...we are all people
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cellucci2
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 05:54
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I think your all a bit crazy
And, how did we go from discussing V-Day to this
*pinches Polgara* pink is not a planet, it's a lifestyle choice.
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polgara
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 06:01
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<!--QuoteBegin--cellucci2+Feb. 08 2006,05:54--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (cellucci2 @ Feb. 08 2006,05:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think your all a bit crazy <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <br><br>And, how did we go from discussing V-Day to this <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo--> <br><br>*pinches Polgara* pink is not a planet, it's a lifestyle choice. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/win.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> ..*kidnaps Moon in her dark corner*<br><br>how bout we polute this topic with our subjects <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <br><br> <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> <br><br>Like 10 ways to turn a man into proper V-day material?
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cellucci2
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 06:31
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ok, here it goes
Number 10: Never speak without permission ( you'll just ruin it)
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polson
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 09:44
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I on the other hand don't care if people are interested in my ramblings. They're perfectly capable of skipping my posts.
I'm proud to be a Canadian. But I'm also proud of my heratige, which IS effected (affected?) by my ancenstory. (many spelling mistakes, I apologize). I don't see a problem with someone wanting to know my family roots. I'll proudly say I'm mostly Swedish, with some Swiss and Scotish thrown in (and I've heard a touch of Irish but not enough to have heard more about that) and my great great great grandmother was native (I don't know how to spell the tribe name so I won't say it and embarras myself). Researching the family history has been cool, there is actually a haunted castle in the family and an awesome ghost story to go with it. And the Scots in the family started opium wars in China (I think that's awesome too). I wish I knew MORE about my family, other than the part about the dumb Sweeds and all (family joke).
Besides, fun games can come from knowing your history. At college we had a black prof and a Japanese student (who I'm sure was born in Canada, but his entire extended family lives in Japan) and who are both proud of their heratige. The funniest things are when Yuya brags about his country and his best friend retorts with something about China and then Yuya gives him a dirty look and calls him American (and then the crowd goes "ooooooooooooh"). And Brian is forever saying "You're just racist because I'm black" and if Yuya is there, he'll add the same line about being Japanese and if my cousin and I are there, we'll make fun of them by throwing in the ol' "You're just racist because I'm 1/8th native."
All that to say, knowing where your family comes from and what traditions and culture has been passed down is not a bad thing. There's probably some interesting surprises in the family history (for example...being 1/8th Native, if I so chose, I could apply for a tax reduction but I'm too lazy ).
VALENTINE'S DAY - sucketh but not enough for me to complain about it.
SAINT PATRICKS DAY - sucketh enough for me to loathe it in every fashion and boycott the color green on said day with the motto "You pinch me, I punch you."
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bria
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 10:01
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Whoah, if I came off sounding like I condemned anyone for knowing their family history or that it's invalid... I didn't mean that at all. But for me there's a difference between "What nationality are you?" and "Where's your family from?"
Like, if I was born in Ireland but my parents were German, then I'd be Irish, but with a German heritage. Hah, I wish!
I think it's different for you people in America, though. I'm not privy to any inside info there. But I didn't mean that you shouldn't know where your ancestors came from if you're that way inclined.
Incidentally, speaking of America and ideology and stuff... is there something wrong with saying "rub out"? My Latin teacher hinted, and I'm naive and inquisitive. If I should shut up, tell me.
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hobbie
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 12:35
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I find it funny that Americans would be saying they're from this or that European country and at the same time display such ignorance and disregard for the rest of the world.
I know I'm generalizing, and I'm not aiming that at any of you, since anyone coming here has at least some opening to the outside, but this whole culture puzzles me...
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nicoll
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2006 15:38
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It's good to know your heritage and even to celebrate it. I think the point made was that knowing your heritage and claiming to be (insert nationality A here) when you and your parents have never been to (insert country A here) is a different thing.
I think there is a grammatical point here, but since both Bria and Hobbie have had a go at my grammar today I won't try to teach anyone. (Clue: it’s semantics more than syntax.)
It's all very strange to me but that's probably because I still live where my family originally comes from, approximately, I don't have to deal with it that much.
Just next time you claim to be from a country, think how the people who actually live there feel about it because you are robbing them of their identity.
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katrina
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2006 04:45
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<!--QuoteBegin--bria+Feb. 08 2006,10:01--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (bria @ Feb. 08 2006,10:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><font color=#9999ff>Incidentally, speaking of America and ideology and stuff... is there something wrong with saying "rub out"? </font><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Not that I'm aware of, no. It's somewhat similar to "snuff out," which means to put out or to kill. I believe British people say "rub out" instead of "erase."<br><br>I suppose you could say "Rub him out"...but it doesn't make much sense.<br><br>And regarding calling oneself some nationality or other - it's a lot easier to say "yeah, I'm part Irish" than "Oh yes indeed, my great-grandfather on my mother's side was full-blooded Irish." You have to get the context. And really, most people do not care which part was Irish(German, Swahili, whatever). In fact, they probably do not care about any of it. So it's most economical of your time and the other person's to just say "yeah, I'm Irish."<br><br>Most people to whom you are speaking about this matter are going to know your actual nationality, and assume this to mean "Yeah, some of my ancestors were Irish." If they care about this sort of thing, this will spark a discussion during which you will both explain your family histories. If not, they'll indicate they couldn't care less and will change the subject. <br><br>It's just a matter of verbal economy and that carrying over into an online place where not everyone does know your nationality. Don't believe it's meant to be offensive, it's just habit.
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teekay
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2006 08:25
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I'm half human. On my mother's side.
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polson
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2006 09:10
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<!--QuoteBegin--bria+Feb. 08 2006,10:01--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (bria @ Feb. 08 2006,10:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><font color=#9999ff><br>I think it's different for you people in America, though. </font><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I guess you have to remember that for everyone in North America (the polite way to remember Canada exists is to throw a north in front) originally we're mostly immagrants from Europe, Asia, Africa, well, basicly anywhere but here. And it's not THAT long ago in our history either. I can't remember, but either my grandpa or my great grandpa was born in Sweden (if it was the latter, he lived there for some time before moving to Canada). Usually if another Canadian asks me what nationality I am, I'm going to have to elaborate on the answer "Canadian".<br><br>Just to add...frankly, if I run into someone who's grandparents or mom/dad, whatever was Canadian I'm TICKLED. To me that's a point of connection and I'm like "right on!" I don't feel like they're trying to define my culture at all, and I don't feel offended by it. Even if it's by an American who doesn't know a thing about the world around them and is so excited that his grandpa lived in an igloo in Calgary. That says more about the American culture as a whole than the individual I'm talking to.<br><br>P.S. TK - <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo-->
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polgara
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# Posted: 9 Feb 2006 09:12
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<!--QuoteBegin--hobbie+Feb. 08 2006,12:35--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (hobbie @ Feb. 08 2006,12:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I find it funny that Americans would be saying they're from this or that European country and at the same time display such ignorance and disregard for the rest of the world.<br>I know I'm generalizing, and I'm not aiming that at any of you, since anyone coming here has at least some opening to the outside, but this whole culture puzzles me...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> Ray will you marry me...<br> <!--emo&:o--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ann.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':o'><!--endemo--> that was a joke in case you're gonna run away again <!--emo&:v--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bro.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':v'><!--endemo-->
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jedimkypd
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2006 08:54
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<!--QuoteBegin--polgara+Feb. 04 2006,07:21--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (polgara @ Feb. 04 2006,07:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Greetings OTfers <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <br>With all the hussle and bussle around V-day i've heard a couple of voices who were uttering some non V-day emotions. So for counterbalance like the Ying for the Yang a place for people to be able to express those feelings <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo--> .<br>Personally i have no hard feelings agains V-day: it never really did anything wrong to me.(not much good either).<br>Enjoy <!--emo&:}--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blu.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':}'><!--endemo--> <br><br>P.S. Can someone edit my spelling dohs <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--><br><br><br><br> <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>tewin,<br><br>you told us to edit your spelling dohs. <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo--> i think it's "Yin" and "Yang" <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->
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hobbie
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2006 09:30
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<!--QuoteBegin--polgara+Feb. 09 2006,09:12--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (polgara @ Feb. 09 2006,09:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--emo&:o--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ann.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':o'><!--endemo--> that was a joke in case you're gonna run away again <!--emo&:v--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bro.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':v'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Why run away when I can just say "no"? <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo-->
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jedimkypd
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# Posted: 11 Feb 2006 10:03
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you people scare me no offence or anything
KypD
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polgara
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2006 06:27
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Hobbie that's pathetic saying no to a joke
And stay out of my town
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