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babel
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# Posted: 2 May 2006 14:41
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By the way, like Bria I won't be accepting friends invitations. To the people who have added me and don't get a 'yes' from me it's nothing personal, if you read my views here you'll know why.
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christena
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# Posted: 2 May 2006 14:54
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I don't mind the friends list. It's kind've fun and quirky to me but I don't belong to any of the myspace or LJ communities so yeah... That being said.. I don't know if I'll request anybody but I won't deny anyone that wants to add me. It's all in fun and we need alittle more of that around here... 
And I understand other people's opinions that don't want to do it..and I respect that too.
Cinna
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jayneway
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# Posted: 2 May 2006 14:56
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*stumbles across Iain-named Iain-lookalike on facebook* 
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camila
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# Posted: 2 May 2006 16:27
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Hey, Iain, if you're that bored....
Why don't you look at some of my [scripting] suggestions (see thread):
1: messaging system w/ character limit so people can send quickies
2: login once to logon to _all_ of 10F
3: fix the suggestion box... it is broken. 
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hobbie
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# Posted: 3 May 2006 01:31
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I don't think OTF would gain much from a private messenger. MSN, ICQ and the rest will, most likely, remain what people will choose to use because of the privacy. In OTF, because of the Prime Directives, it'd have to be monitored by the ISA - and, if it's not private, it can be posted in the main chat.
So it'd end up being mostly used by all those new members who think OTF is a singles' bar, and that's probably not what we want.
The ISA could maybe use something like that, but I think that's why they try to have each other in regular IMs...
Likewise, I don't think logging in to everything all at once is such a good thing. Sometimes people want to check one or another management system, for example. They'd have to be logged in to the chat at the same time, and to enter data they're not going to use, such as avatars, tagline and such?
There are also some security issues, I'm sure.
And they fixed the suggestion box a few days ago!
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iain
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# Posted: 3 May 2006 03:22
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Hi Camila!
For once... I largely agree with Ray! 
> 1: messaging system w/ character limit so people can send quickies
I'm afraid we've always tended to be opposed to "private messaging" features at OTF. I believe this was because of the inherent difficulty of monitoring such messages, as would be necessary on this family friendly site. Perhaps emails would (continue to be) the best solution - or, if the message is public, posting it on the forums?
> 2: login once to logon to _all_ of 10F
To what extent do you mean here...? We currently, of course, have OTF-HQ, which I've been adding to a bit lately, with new systems.
For instance, you clearly don't mean to login, in one go, to all chatrooms at once... but to what extent do you mean...?
Perhaps I could have a shot at working the Spycam (login) and the Profile Management System (at all) into OTF HQ? Forums login is non-trivial, since we're using Ikonboard forums, which have had some magic done to adapt them to OTF... maybe not absolutely impossible, but much harder...
> 3: fix the suggestion box... it is broken.
There were two issues there... *snaps fingers* Both should now be instantly resolved.
(Joking aside, it's much more complicated than that, but one of the issues was resolved a while back following my assembling an ISA group to take care of the major timeconsuming issue while ISA Director; and I coincidentally decided to resolve the other issue today, before reading your post!
Cheers!
Iain
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camila
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# Posted: 3 May 2006 06:38
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haha, you're cool, Iain.
I gotta go study, will reply more later. =P
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christena
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# Posted: 3 May 2006 18:17
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Yes! The Suggestion Box is fully operational
Fire away peoples! 
The Box Bunny
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camila
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# Posted: 3 May 2006 19:23
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hey, iain, will you please change my registration to 1997? It's stupid, but it annoys me how my dossier says I registered in 2002 and then says I got a promotion in 1998. :-P
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iain
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# Posted: 4 May 2006 02:52
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Can do! Any idea what date you registered.. or at least, month...?
Cheers!
Iain
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polson
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# Posted: 4 May 2006 08:04
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While you're at it Iain, can you do my laundry, clean my room, wash my car (inside and out), fix the electrical problems in my closet, put another light in my bathroom as well as install the roof, the tile and the shelves, head down to my work and unload the kiln, dip everything, reload the kiln, vacuum and sweep the floors, take the recycling out, and I've got a list of errands here a mile long that needs tending to. And when you're done all that, I need a foot massage. I work too hard.
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iain
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# Posted: 4 May 2006 08:33
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What's that you say, Polson? Wrap your foot in laundry; wash your light; electrocute the roof; dip the kiln; vacuum the recycling; and sweep the fact that I only half listened to you under the rug...?
Iain
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polson
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# Posted: 4 May 2006 09:27
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Eh? Oh, sorry, I wasn't listening. You say "yes, master, as you wish, and while I'm at it I'll change the oil in your car"? Sure, that sounds good.
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camila
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# Posted: 4 May 2006 13:12
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Iain - I don't remember, but I was looking at some of the people I remember from back then... and I think I registered somewhere between June and December 1997. :-P We'll call it August for a good average?
Regarding my suggestions...
1.
Well, it wouldn't be like AIM. It'd be a small message that you can send... kinda like an email with a character limit. It'd be very useful for people who don't display ANY contact info in their profiles. For example, I miss Tom (Tierce) and I could leave him a message saying "email me or else." :-P
A good system to monitor these:
1 - don't allow curse words just like in the chats
2- don't monitor, but allow people to report abusive messages. Members sending these could then be banned. Add a "report" buttom.
3 - don't allow HTML
Suggestion #2:
Of course I don't mean to login to all chats at once... What I mean is to have a cookie that saves all your info everywhere... Just like zone.msn.com. In the zone, I can jump from one game to another or email or chats w/o having to re-enter my info. The cookie would save chat login info, forum login, email login, OTF HQ, spycam, etc. That way, I could goto outpost10f.com/spycam, and instead of the login page, I would get the spycam itself.
While these may seem stupid and not worth all the trouble, I think they'd make life easier, loging-in wouldn't be as annoying, I'd be able to contact old friends... AND... we're always looking to improve, right? That's part of what makes 10F cool. And, of course, you're bored if you chose to pursue that "friends" thing. :-P
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maxwell
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# Posted: 5 May 2006 22:12
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Hi,
Hats off to Iain. Here's a guy that knew little if nothing about scripting/programming and has quickly picked up what he needs to know to add and enhance features.
Like this feature or not, the real positives here are the Outpost giving Iain an opportunity to learn new skills and Iain spending the time to use his newfound knowledge to benefit the community. That's what OTF has always been about and it's good to see it continue.
I suspect this is the beginning of much to come!
As for my opinion on the feature I'd have to echo what Jeremy has already said, that being the Outpost was never meant to be a popularity contest. I'm not sure how a friend counter or friend ranking tool furthers the core values of the community. However, if folks have the option of turning it off and it appears only in the participating members' dossiers I don't think it's anything to lose sleep over.
Good stuff Iain.
Andrew
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jayneway
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# Posted: 10 May 2006 18:23
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...damn those pesky NatSci-come-CompSci's 
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iain
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# Posted: 11 May 2006 02:13
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That's it! I knew those Medics would find some way to turn a serious discussion into a bashing match between Medicine and Science!
I wouldn't mind so much, except that I am obviously right!
Iain
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camila
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# Posted: 11 May 2006 08:50
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What's the argument? Medicine IS science (and art)... CS is not.
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jayneway
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# Posted: 12 May 2006 00:18
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And not just a NatSci...a PHYSICS NatSci..acursed atom-bashers
Ma, get off the internet and go study =P
xx
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camila
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# Posted: 12 May 2006 07:36
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stop catching me everywhere! =P
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polson
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# Posted: 12 May 2006 07:57
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Is it just me or has this thread deteriorated?
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kady
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# Posted: 13 Jun 2006 19:34
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My dream is that some day Iain will grow up and marry Kady and make Kady a very wealthy woman....the boy is growing into a genious quite rapidly, if you ask me.
Reading all the posts about being picky about who your friends just leaves me feeling very..errrmmm....for the lack of a better term, "easy." I like everyone. If you send me an invite, I'd accept. Why the need to not be friends with certain people? Isn't it all your friends, with all their different personalities and opinions that makes your life more interesting? How empty would we be if we just kept telling ourselves that we didn't want or need certain types of individuals in our lives?
As for cliques, well, it seems like the friends list would demonish that problem. I came to OTF in 1998 when I was 17. I have told this to so many people, I'm sure it bores everyone by now. I was shy and scared and had left all my friends and my high school when I graduated ahead of schedule to go to college. OTF just seemed like the place where everyone got along and became friends. Where you were accepted no matter what. So, this feature, that shouts to the world that we are all friends...well, isn't that a GOOD thing? Don't we sort of need to put away our petty arguments and invite each other onto our friends list by saying, "Hey, I appreciate you?" I realize that I'm just a dumb, sheltered American, so I'm probably totally wrong on this. =-(
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lzrman
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# Posted: 13 Jun 2006 20:26
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Kady, you are not wrong.... adding someone in appreciation is the right thing.
Lzrman
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kady
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# Posted: 13 Jun 2006 21:33
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<!--QuoteBegin--babel+April 30 2006,15:49--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (babel @ April 30 2006,15:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm sorry but I can't see the point of this at all. It's a waste of time and resources. Rank my friends? How the hell am I supposed to do that? I can't and won't. <br><br>I cannot see ONE good reason for this friends thing. I'm sorry to those who have worked hard on it . . . if I could see any positive points I would report them. But I can't.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>While I was reading through personality quizzes on another OTF thread, I found Babel's. There was a question that particularly jogged my memory. In it, he asked who the idividual responsible for introducing him to OTF was. Keep in mind, that this must have been a good 6 or 7 years ago.<br><br>I first met Babel on a Kirk vs. Picard website. He fervently argued that Kirk was the most adept Starfleet captain, while I stubbornly tried to convince him that Picard was 10 times the captain Kirk could have ever hoped to be. No one else really posted to that forum, so Babel and I built up a raport. When I found and started frequenting OTF, I also introduced the site to Babel. Now, look at the OTF officer that he has become....and it doesn't seem like his loyalty to Kirk hindered his progress at all. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/win.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--><br><br>When I introduced Babel to OTF I never dreamed he would become so immensely popular here. Then again, thinking back to his devotion and witt on that Kirk vs. Picard forum, how could I have been surprised? The thing is, what if, by refusing to entertain in something that seems so trivial to us now, is denying OTF of our future Babels? I'm certain that I'm not the only one who likes to be told that I'm appreciated and respected. <br><br><br>Babel, are you 100% certain that sending out invitations to people to be your OTF friend will have absolutely no positive outcome?<br><br><br>P.S.: The ranking part, needs to be 86ed, though. There is no way I'd tell anyone that I valued them more or less than someone else. Sorry. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->
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polson
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2006 11:48
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I'm so hurt. No one wants to be my friend, except for the three or four some people I said no too. 
*points up* Sarcasm...
Query...is the friends list accomplishing what it was created to accomplish? It's been up and running for a couple months now, right?
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kady
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2006 00:24
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<!--QuoteBegin--polson+June 15 2006,11:48--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (polson @ June 15 2006,11:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm so hurt. No one wants to be my friend, except for the three or four some people I said no too. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--><br><br>*points up* Sarcasm...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Polson, you're such a charmer! <!--emo&:}--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blu.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':}'><!--endemo-->
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kady
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2006 19:47
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<!--QuoteBegin--polson+June 15 2006,11:48--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (polson @ June 15 2006,11:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm so hurt. No one wants to be my friend, except for the three or four some people I said no too. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--><br><br>*points up* Sarcasm...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>OK, ok. I know that I'm a glutton for punishment, but just because Polson posted that she's fervently turning down requests to be on people's friends lists, I am conducting an experiment to see if she will ever accept my invitation. What can I say? I enjoy using people as human guinea pigs. <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo-->
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babel
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# Posted: 7 Aug 2006 15:29
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<!--QuoteBegin--kady+June 13 2006,21:33--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (kady @ June 13 2006,21:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--babel+April 30 2006,15:49--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (babel @ April 30 2006,15:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm sorry but I can't see the point of this at all. It's a waste of time and resources. Rank my friends? How the hell am I supposed to do that? I can't and won't. <br><br>I cannot see ONE good reason for this friends thing. I'm sorry to those who have worked hard on it . . . if I could see any positive points I would report them. But I can't.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>While I was reading through personality quizzes on another OTF thread, I found Babel's. There was a question that particularly jogged my memory. In it, he asked who the idividual responsible for introducing him to OTF was. Keep in mind, that this must have been a good 6 or 7 years ago.<br><br>I first met Babel on a Kirk vs. Picard website. He fervently argued that Kirk was the most adept Starfleet captain, while I stubbornly tried to convince him that Picard was 10 times the captain Kirk could have ever hoped to be. No one else really posted to that forum, so Babel and I built up a raport. When I found and started frequenting OTF, I also introduced the site to Babel. Now, look at the OTF officer that he has become....and it doesn't seem like his loyalty to Kirk hindered his progress at all. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/win.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--><br><br>When I introduced Babel to OTF I never dreamed he would become so immensely popular here. Then again, thinking back to his devotion and witt on that Kirk vs. Picard forum, how could I have been surprised? The thing is, what if, by refusing to entertain in something that seems so trivial to us now, is denying OTF of our future Babels? I'm certain that I'm not the only one who likes to be told that I'm appreciated and respected. <br><br><br>Babel, are you 100% certain that sending out invitations to people to be your OTF friend will have absolutely no positive outcome?<br><br><br>P.S.: The ranking part, needs to be 86ed, though. There is no way I'd tell anyone that I valued them more or less than someone else. Sorry. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Food for thought Kady. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--><br><br>And thankee for the nice words. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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quincyw
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# Posted: 7 Aug 2006 16:39
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I'm going to attempt to get this back on topic? What topic?
I'm also going to use my usual candor, so kindly take this with a bit of patience.
If you're my friend, you'd know you're my friend. You don't need any label or list, you either are or you're not. If you are, great. If you're not, don't take it personally, there are plenty of other people out there.
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kady
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2006 13:26
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<!--QuoteBegin--babel+Aug. 07 2006,15:29--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (babel @ Aug. 07 2006,15:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Food for thought Kady. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--><br><br>And thankee for the nice words. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I like being nice to people I like!<br><br>That way, when I'm mean to those I don't, I'm that much scarier. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/win.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--><br><br>Although, in real life, when I get mad and try to yell at people, they usually just laugh at me. No one ever takes me seriously. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->
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