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david1
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2006 23:02
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Well... some people saw these a while back... but just for everyone to have a poke at.... heres somthing ive been working on for a while... and its no long before completion... =)
its hard working on my own though lmao
sql is gunne be the toughest part to complete...
Any feedback Would be apreciated... anyone with any questions fire away..
... and who says i dont know how to code 
... plus this version is 100% hack proof, 100% script proof, 100% cheat proof. only way you'll be able to screw up this one is to edit the sql directly... lmao... hacking the server ... but ive got a trick up my sleve to stop that as well... lmao...
evality ...
XZ
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Single Player Mode 95% complete 
Multiplayer Mode ... Waiting for me to learn more SQL
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david1
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2006 23:07
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*p.s.*
Answers a Q:
Ignore the Dates  They're Old Screenshots... im too lazy to show the newer versions...
They're for my eyes only.
Im Aiming for December Release Date, will speak to source anyway before then...
XZ
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seele01
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2006 03:41
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There is another game that looks like that, or maybe I just think there is.
Anyway, if you wan't a hand with SQL, don't ask me because I probably know as much as you, but if you want I will be willing to help.
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krillen488
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2006 06:15
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that looks GREAT David! i'm looking forward to seeing the official release... i offer my services as a Beta tester... like always
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david1
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2006 09:09
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<!--QuoteBegin--seele01+June 07 2006,03:41--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (seele01 @ June 07 2006,03:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->There is another game that looks like that, or maybe I just think there is.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>pokes my email account!
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seele01
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2006 21:40
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Hey folks,
Dave is currently looking for some ideas on the planets and so far has an idea of having options for your planets by automating them for you so as to prevent trying to micromanage all your planets.
Example:
Set the planets stance to hostile so it will concentrate on building military components
Normal will build a bit of everything at the same time
Defensive will build detection and defensive components mainly
So give us your ideas.
SEELE 01 - New World Trader Beta Tester
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david1
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2006 21:56
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Yep
I havent built the planets really... ive just been throwing around ideas...
... i did make the planets one way, but after discussion... i found that it would cause a planet building player to go insaine ...
So any ideas for planets ... please throw them my way...
Bearing in mind that planets can now hold troops.... and each planet (if you have seen the screenshots) can have 3 bases on them...
... this is to stop players creating 100% fortified planets ... well to make planets as strong as their weakest link...
... and also i did this to remove the need for sector defences... which are a waste of time... blerb... instead ... each Base will have its own fleet... which the base supports lmao... it is simular to bnt... however if a base has a fleet... all the user would be able to do is scan the fleet... and attack it... they wont be able to even scan the planet or anything...
... anyway ideas.
XZ
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seele01
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2006 22:13
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Well anyway, we have been talking and it got me thinking about some crazy ideas.
I would like to have increased colonist reproduction option too. So when someone makes a new planet, they can focus on farming which increase colonists reproduction but at the cost of
defense and such. Good way to get colonists but leaves it open for attack if you are not careful
Also have a way of controlling max colonists. The more colonists you have the more % you need set to farming to maintain them. The idea here being that you need to farm more of the planet surface. So not necessarily let them starve but just stop growing at a certain point.
And for the idea that is probably going a little too far, freighters. In the essence that you can have farming planets that produce alot of food that is then spread out amongst your other planets.
The reason I add is because it make some planets more strategic as you will be relying on them to support your empire. Then if someone drops mines or fighters in your sector it acts as a blockade, preventing the planet from receiving or sending food. You could also sell excess food for a profit or just store it on other planets so they can resist a blockade for a bit.
Oops, I see dave doesn't want Sector defenses. Well, will think up something.
Anyway just some ideas, crazy ideas.
SEELE 01 - New World Trader Beta Tester
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david1
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# Posted: 8 Jun 2006 04:07
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Then if someone drops mines or fighters in your sector it acts as a blockade<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Mine fields... a thing of the past... who needs mine fields... yes they still excist... BUT they programmable <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--> ... but just as a deterant to using mine fields ... basicallly you can deploy them as standard.... however you now dont hit them automatically... like i dont think pilots should be flying in space if they're blind enough not to see 1 trillian mines in front of them... lmao... but mine fields have a purpose... but you'd have to wait until you played the game to see it...<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->freighters<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Micromanagment thing again... people dotn have hours to set these up, and to be honest its a feature which planet builders would love to use... but it will soon dawn on them that they are using more time to maintaing freighters then actually playing the game and doing anything else...<br><br>heres somthing im aiming for.... that no matter how large a player gets ... that they shouldnt have to be logged into the game for more then 1 hour at the maxumin just for doing general stuff ... etc...<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oops, I see dave doesn't want Sector defenses. Well, will think up something.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Sector defences are there to stop people getting into your sector... problem is players make them too big and they get fustrating ... plus they are hard to mantain.... the only way i would be able to add sector fighters into the game would be if they used credits rarther then energy... allthough since planets have fleets, up to 3 of them.... each planet technically has 3 sector defences anyway .... <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo--> <br><br><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->increased colonist reproduction option too<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br><b><i>Decrees all males will be allowed to have unlimited wifes.... <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--></b></i> ... joking aside... ... ... <br>i had an idea about this... because i do need to hav some sort of way of increasing colonists... like maybe have a clonin centre lmao..... somthing to build.... maybe... this isnt as easy as abc.<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Also have a way of controlling max colonists<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>There is... when you first enter "Ruins" <i>i thought that would be better to use then just abandonded base! lmao</i> ... my idea is quite a simple one.... to make population limit linked to food supply... the more food the planet has the larger the planet can be... i.e. planet has 100,000,000 food in storage... this will support 10,000,000 colonists.... allthough there will have to be a default of 20,000,000 max for 0 food supplies....<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Good way to get colonists but leaves it open for attack if you are not careful<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>I left this one until last .... because of somthing new i put in this game... which isnt in aat or bnt. totally new <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--><br>You see planets can "train" troops!!!! (but you have to pay their wage, 24 credits a day <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/win.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> )... and planets can also have Weapons.... which troops use... but say an opposing player captures one of the bases on the planet... rarther then continuing with sofa's and all that crap... a new option becomes available to te opposing player .. "Invade" ... (thats if they have placed more then 1 troop on their captured base) ... and when they invade another "base" ... its basically troops vs troops... and say you loose all your troops and your opposition still has more troops left.... your Colonists will take up arms... (whatever weapons are left) and will fight on...<br><br>better to show through example....<br><br>100,000,000 defence troops ... vs ... 500,000,000 invading.<br>(invading troops destroy 5% of defending troops as first strike)<br>5% of 500,000,000 - 5,000,000<br>then defensice will activate... taking out 110% equiv of own of the opposing players (defensive bonus)<br>110% of 95,000,000 - 104,500,000<br>95,000,000 defensive troops ... vs ... 395,500,000 invading.<br>then the straight fighting ... like for liek happens<br>....<br>Invading Troops Win First Stage .... 300,500,000<br>....<br>Second Stage. Planet Supply of weapons, 500,000,000. Planet Supply Of Colonists, 500,000,000.<br>1 out of every 3 colonists takes up arms.... 1/3 of 500,000,000 = 166,666,667.<br>Planet Colonists Ambush invading troops in surprise attack (5% damage done to opposition)<br>5% of 300,500,000.<br>285,475,000 - remaining.<br>166,666,667 vs 285,475,000 = 118,808,333<br><br>Invading Force Suceeds.<br><br><b><font color="red" size="+1">I know most of you wont read that... i just posted it ... just to give an idea of which it might be like... as that is how it is as current!!</b></font><br><br><b>keep the ideas flowing... or <a href"mailto:xgermz@hotmail.com>email me</a><br><br><b>XZ</b>
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seele01
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# Posted: 8 Jun 2006 04:27
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Quick reply for now, I would make freighters an automated thing too. In that people don't have control them or anything, the planets just run them, your empire takes care of itself sort of thing. I suppose the only thing would be how many you want in your empire and you just buy them like that, no deciding on hull sizes or routes, just buy em as you need em to maintain your empire.
I have another idea but I will talk to you before posting it on here.
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david1
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# Posted: 8 Jun 2006 08:55
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the basics of New World Traders
Theres Space - which you can move around in.
Theres also solar systems, which you can enter, where the planets and ports are.
Basics, each Solar System is random, and comes in 3 sizes, the commen 3x3, the uncommen 5x5, and the rare 7x7.
Each solar system has random amounts of ports and planets (i.e. a solar system could contain 5 good planets and 1 of every port (if your lucky))
Each planet can contain up to 3 bases, (like ordinary bnt, but rarther then have seperate planets, each planet has 3 bases)
Unlike bnt though... if you owned a solar system, all you would need to do i place 1 solar system defence in place to defend all your planets, which could be 7 or 8 planets, which is 21-24 bases, which is a lot of resource being protected....
basically ... in theory... you could win the game without ever leaving your solar system.... even though there are EXPENSIVE ways to destroying the sd's.
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look at this ... you will see it has all types of ports, and 13 planets ... thats 39 bases... most people dont have that many when they play bnt (equiv of planets) ... you could win the game just defending this solar system
... just some basic vague info... anything else you want to know ask.
XZ
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seele01
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# Posted: 12 Jun 2006 21:38
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Not getting many ideas here dave. Probably because people need to play the game before making suggestions about it.
Get that Single player mode out there and people will tell you what they like and dislike about it and then you will get the real suggestions.
No pressure though, you are only expected to replace BNT now. Still haven't talked to you about my idea yet.
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crazedbama
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# Posted: 12 Jun 2006 23:05
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i thought about making a game like this for my senior project for my bachelors in computer science, but decided instead to make a carputer. 
But I had coded a lot of the mySQL tables and wrote all the cgi's using perl. You're prolly using php but they are pretty similar. It was a lot of fun, tho I never finished. I'd be willing to help code if you wanted, it's always good to refresh those skills. I'll leave the designing up to the rest of you guys. lol
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