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aeon
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 08:13
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I've randomly noticed some inappropriate behavior... again, and it starts to upset me. Before I complain about anyone, anywhere, I think, I'd better remind everyone of our Prime Directives (aka PDs) to read.
I'm serious about that. All chatters have a responsibility, either if we're a junior or senior officer. We're still, and always will be a family chat. That means, inappropriate language and/or behavior is not tolerated! Especially by me. And don't say something like: "Hey, it's just a chat!" Because it's not. We're an online community and chat, and with the registration we've all agreed to respect the above mentioned directives.
If you've got any problems with this post, e-mail me under aeon2364@hotmail.de It's just, that I think, we shouldn't forget, what we're here for: Fun. And not to disappoint, embarrass or upset other members. And unfortunately, that's exactly the mood I'm in now.
Don't get me wrong with this post. This is a general reminder to everyone and not to a particular person or event. If I have any problems with one of you in particular, you'd know it. 
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polson
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 08:30
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Aeon has a point. When you register, you agree to obey the rules of the chat and community. It's the same when you go to a college, or to work, you always have to sign something or other (at least I have) to indicate you know what's expected of you behaviorly and you agree to uphold that. You can't agree to follow the PD's on paper and then complain about it when you get asked to honor that commitment.
Speaking as ISA, I think the worst job I have is having to correct a friend who is disrespecting others or themselves, or is crossing the line of inappropriateness and innuendo. I hate that because you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, and I know that some folks use it as fuel for their bitterness toward the policies and pollitics of this place.
I once had a boss who would not listen to a complaint unless the problem was presented with a possible solution. I think the old adage is true, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Don't like the way things are being done? Then be a part of the solution. And for the record, intentionally provoking ISA, or intentionally walking the PD line, is not part of the solution.
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ajcardall
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 08:34
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People who need to know my feelings on this matter, do so.
I'm not discussing it publically 
Oh, and respect is earned.
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hobbie
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 09:01
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Bashing other people is easy. After all, everyone has flaws, and they're usually pretty obvious...
What I liked in OTF, and one of the main reasons I stuck around, is that people usually try to make an effort to see past the flaws and to try to be civil to each other, at least in chat.
I'm not saying that people should pretend to be madly in love with everyone else, that'd be just scary, but what OTF is about, in my opinion, is tolerance, and accepting the fact that people are different.
Think about how you'd want people to treat you and act accordingly, that's what I say. The world would be a better place.
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bria
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 09:43
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I'm not gonna say much on this; I have heard, and can understand, a lot of different viewpoints on this issue. I agree with Polson on the reminding friends thing, though, that gets real awkward.
And for the record, when I say "It's just a chatroom!", I mean "It's just a chatroom, don't get too upset over it, there isn't any point getting depressed over something like that", not "It's just a chatroom, don't bother following the rules". When I say something like that, it's because I'm trying to prevent people beating themselves up over something or other. And yes, I know that no one was referring to me, I'm just making this clear.
The other thought, and I just know that all the wrong people will take this to be aimed at them and go for my throat, but I'll say it anyway - take a step back, look at yourself, and cast the first stone if you can.
I can't.
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polson
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 10:09
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"The other thought, and I just know that all the wrong people will take this to be aimed at them and go for my throat, but I'll say it anyway - take a step back, look at yourself, and cast the first stone if you can. I can't."
Bria, I think that was the most profound thing anybody could have said in this thread.
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lucient
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 11:45
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<!--QuoteBegin--ajcardall+Aug. 09 2006,08:34--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (ajcardall @ Aug. 09 2006,08:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->People who need to know my feelings on this matter, do so.<br><br>I'm not discussing it publically <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> <br><br><br>Oh, and respect is earned.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>The problem is, and this is just how I see it. we have some people here who think that because of who they are or how long they have been here that people should just show them the utmost respect when they show none to anybody else.<br><br>I wish this were an easier situation to deal with, but it's not...it's one that EVERY member of OTF needs to work on, becuas elord knows none of us are perfect.<br><br>Luc
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ajcardall
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 11:55
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<!--QuoteBegin--lucient+Aug. 09 2006,11:45--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (lucient @ Aug. 09 2006,11:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><br>The problem is, and this is just how I see it. we have some people here who think that because of who they are or how long they have been here that people should just show them the utmost respect when they show none to anybody else.<br><br>I wish this were an easier situation to deal with, but it's not...it's one that EVERY member of OTF needs to work on, becuas elord knows none of us are perfect.<br><br>Luc<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Let me elaborate a little, before people get the wrong idea.<br><br>I do strongly feel that respect is something that one earns, and is not something that is given or enforced because some rule says I must. However, to those people I don't respect, for whatever reason, I shall remain polite and civil towards them. When I don't respect a person, it doesn't mean I shall disrespect them, unless I feel they are disrespecting me, or friends of mine.<br><br>I don't respect people for their length of service, or what they've done for something. I will respect their achievements and all the energy that have poured into something, but that doesn't mean I will respect the person.<br><br>On the flip-side, there are people who have, by comparisson, put in very little, yet I have utmost respect for them, because, in my eyes, they have earned the respect and I shall give it them.<br><br>No matter who you are, what you do, or who you know; if you don't earn respect, I shall not respect you.<br><br>On a final note: people say OTF is more than a chatroom; it's a community. It's an <i>online</i> community folks, and it is just a chatroom; a website; a little corner of cyberspace. Don't take it all so seriously, and get so uppity, moody and angry when someone does/says something you agree with.
<br><br><!--EDIT|ajcardall|Aug. 09 2006,11:58-->
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babel
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 16:07
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The great CT once said, 'It's only a chatroom!'
Well it is . . . and yet it is more than that. That's why people like Ct have made this a labour of love for so many years. I am going to veer away from Annie's main point, though what I'm saying is very much linked with it. Annie is right to say the things she does, and there are other good points raised throughout the thread.
I wasn't going to touch this thread originally but after a good conversation in MT tonight I decided to put in my two pennyworth. Now as Luc says, goodness knows none of us are perfect. I am prepared to put up my hand and say that sometimes, and yes, recently, I have taken out RL frustrations on OTF. I think we all do occasionally, or at least some of us. Sometimes we have react to what we consider to be due provocation, sometimes we blow up because we've had a crappy day at the office and it's easier to yell at someone in a chatroom. Of course, we should remember, and I completely apply this to my good self, that we should take a deep breath before posting. (If I was as good at taking advice as giving it . . )
I think it is encumbant upon us all to make an effort. It's our 9th anniversary soon and perhaps this can be a renewal of what we think is good and decent about OTF. And we can take that forward day by day (by the way, we can thank Luc for that particular piece of wisdom) and come to OTF to have fun, meet friends, hang out, console one another, whatever . . .
I don't want to come to OTF to argue, fall out with people, etc. Really. I ask that people look at OTF, the PDs, and each other . . get our perspective back, remember what is great about OTF - nine years old, we must have SOMETHING going for us! - and move on. I certainly take this opportunity to apologise to anyone I've offended recently and I personally am making a big effort to behave in OTF as I've done in days gone by (yeah, things were in sepia back then, it was sooo long ago . . ) when I was all respectable-like.
OTF is a hobby, a thing for us to do to chill. And explore our talents through the Guilds, or gain confidence we can take into RL from our achieving things here in the departments and chats. I recently read some wise words from our founder, Andrew Maxwell, and it reminded me that what was true when OTF was founded holds true today. That's all I have to say, it might be drivel, you might find it hypocritical, but one thing I am passionate about is OTF. So sue me.
All the best
Jeremy
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lzrman
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 21:16
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Well, like Babel I was thinking of not showing my opinion on this thread. But until I read the rest of the topic I decided to.
Technically is just a bunch of scripts improved apon over time, but those scripts have made us an online family, through this chatroom interface.
Respect is earned through personal friendship and I don't believe people should be ignored based on personal bias. If you dislike someone don't ignore them, try mending your personal grudge against them and don't be dropping everyone that you hate. Like AJ said, I will also give a respective courtesy to those that I dislike and I won't ignore people and make them feel like an outcast.
I come to OTF to chill, and have a good conversation about various things. Its a community to share whats on our mind (within the pds) and get possible ideas that others think.
Respect is gained through respect given.
Show one respect, and they shall return the courtesy.
Lzrman
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polson
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# Posted: 9 Aug 2006 22:50
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Query...if you can't give respect until they give you respect, but they won't give respect until you give them respect, don't we end up with a whole bunch of people who refuse to respect?
Someone somewhere has to take a leap of faith and treat the people around them with common decency regardless of whether or not they've done anything to earn it.
Personally, the "respect is earned" policy sounds like an excuse not to respect other people. Always has, and always will, in my opinion. Let's all boast about how we don't respect people who don't deserve it, because that's something to be proud of. I understand that a statement like that will bring hellfire upon me from those who live and die by "respect is earned," but understand that I don't intend to be offensive to you personally, simply to call it as I see it.
I wish I could say I'm the kind of person who respects everyone, all the time, regardless of whether or not they deserve it, I wish I was big enough to be unconditional. I'm not, I'm too self-centered. Respect is automatic, it is given to everyone I meet. After that, it's up to them to keep it, and if they don't, it will take them a lifetime to regain it. Maybe that's crueler in a way. I have a lot of walls, I admit, my system is flawed, and everything I do is designed to protect myself.
P.S. R-E-S-P-E-C-T! I'll tell you what it means to me! Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me!
Pomme and Kelly ftw!
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aeon
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2006 15:03
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I've made a huge mistake when I posted this. Some people got me wrong, other people just were offended. And that's absolutely not what it was intended to be. Maybe I should think first, and then speak.
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zildjian
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2006 15:14
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Hey guys,
There is nothing wrong with this thread. If it offends anyone they are not looking at the big picture. Respect is a concept. Similer to 'if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.' Or, if you don't get along with someone, you don't have to speak to them. Now as I'd rather see everyone get along, that is probably not going to happen till humanity faces a common enemy other then itself.
All that is asked and expected is not particularly to show respect to someone whom you may not have respect for, but to not disrespect them. That is the true concept that is expected in OTF. If one finds respect is earned, fine. Don't respect them, but on the same pretense, they shouldn't be disrespected cause they are not respected.
This post is directed as food for thought and not intended toward any group or singular persons
Zild
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kady
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2006 16:58
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<!--QuoteBegin--polson+Aug. 09 2006,22:50--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (polson @ Aug. 09 2006,22:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Query...if you can't give respect until they give you respect, but they won't give respect until you give them respect, don't we end up with a whole bunch of people who refuse to respect?<br><br>Someone somewhere has to take a leap of faith and treat the people around them with common decency regardless of whether or not they've done anything to earn it.<br><br>Personally, the "respect is earned" policy sounds like an excuse not to respect other people. Always has, and always will, in my opinion. Let's all boast about how we don't respect people who don't deserve it, because that's something to be proud of. I understand that a statement like that will bring hellfire upon me from those who live and die by "respect is earned," but understand that I don't intend to be offensive to you personally, simply to call it as I see it. <br><br>I <i>wish</i> I could say I'm the kind of person who respects everyone, all the time, regardless of whether or not they deserve it, I wish I was big enough to be unconditional. I'm not, I'm too self-centered. Respect is automatic, it is given to everyone I meet. After that, it's up to them to keep it, and if they don't, it will take them a lifetime to regain it. Maybe that's crueler in a way. I have a lot of walls, I admit, my system is flawed, and everything I do is designed to protect myself.<br><br>P.S. R-E-S-P-E-C-T! I'll tell you what it means to me! Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me! <br><br>Pomme and Kelly ftw!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I admit, I can be disrespectful. I don't mean to be. But, it happens. Even when I am, it doesn't mean that I don't respect the other party, it just means that I haven't showed that I do. Or worse, it means that I've showed that I don't....which is utterly untrue. I am very self-centered. This is something I am aware of and need to work on. Making excuses about why I was disrespectful or apologizing over and over for continually showing disrespect is just null. I can rationalize my actions to death, but that doesn't make me right. Sometimes, we just need to suck it up and do the right thing. <br><br>On a completely different note, if we have offended someone and they choose not to forgive us, then we must just allow them that choice. Not everyone is going to like us. That's life and we just have to accept it.
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mustaine
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2006 07:23
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First AJ started this thread about the PD's not respect for someone. So first let me start with that. OTF is an ONLINE COMMUNITY in your real life community you have laws to live by and follow why would anyone think it would be different in an online community? I'm not perfect I've bent a few PD's I've also bent a few laws everyone has. Ever gotten a traffic ticket? Sometimes peeps get caught up in the moment and due things one normally would not due I was put in time out a few weeks ago for that sole reason. Moving on one thing that offends one person might not offend another case in point Polson first post where she said "damned if you do and damned if you don't" anybody could take offense to that just because of the word damn. I don't cause I talk worse than that on a daily basis (think god for the censor) but you get my drift. And sorry pols for using you as an example.
And last Respect. i don't live by the whole respect is earned mentality it is dumb. How do you know they havn't earned yours or anybody's respect? You havn't known them all their lives you don't know what they have done. Their are members here who are or have served in the armed forces to keep us safe and secure they deserve your respect. Their are alot of accomplished peeps here who deserve are respect. So maybe we all need to look deep into our hearts and quit trying to make this a real world community full of corruption, hatred and ignorance and enjoy what brought us here. A chance to leave the real world and all it's misgivings behind
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polson
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2006 09:16
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Yay! I'm an example!
And for the record, I've never gotten a traffic ticket.
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kady
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2006 17:12
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I've gotten two traffic tickets and multiple parking tickets. And once, a police officer put a boot on my car and I had to parade around Shepherdstown at night trying to get money out of my parents' bank account and find a police officer to pay the fine to and take the boot off. It wasn't fun. My advice: pay your fines. Better yet, don't break any laws and then you won't have fines to pay in the first place.
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dpo
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2006 03:14
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I Love OTF. I have since the day I found it, the very second i joined OTF and entered TF for the first time withen 10 seconds i met a friend(Iain). And over the time i have been here i have made hundreds more all around the world. im learning about other culteres,races and all that stuff. I Love OTF for the way they are. Here at OTF i find that even when the World is in war and people are going through all kinds of problems; You can always escape into a place were there is not fighting, no High prices, No racism, none of that. OTF has shown me alot, Not only have i met really nice people, but i also learned how i could better myself for the Future. I have been able to have shoulders available to lean on when im in trouble.
Thats basicly my 2 cents. wether your CL12 or CL2 you are not only a Friend to this Community, But your Family
-Teddy Bear Gare
Dpo(CL4)
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citron
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2006 04:33
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<!--QuoteBegin--kady+Aug. 11 2006,17:12--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (kady @ Aug. 11 2006,17:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Better yet, don't break any laws and then you won't have fines to pay in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Exactly <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/win.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> Fines... rules... same thing. Don't break them, and you'll be fine. <br><br>I love it when people complain that people are mean to them and they keep getting shot out when it's their doing for breaking a rule <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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christena
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2006 09:11
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I think the whole thing about the "Respect is Earned" stuff is this....
(This is solely my opinion and how I've believed in since I was in NJROTC)
A person sometimes has the belief that just because they are a CL6,7,8,9,etc. they will say..I'm a higher rank..you WILL respect me, regardless of how you feel. Now if you're a lower rank, you're thinking.."I don't know this peep from Adam's housecat so why should I give him/her respect? The whole respect is earned deal is that you want to see some proof that they are worthy of your respect. It kind've falls along the lines of what Pols said. You have respect for someone automatically(unless you are just cynical of everyone you meet,and that's a whole 'nother story)..it's up to them to keep earning your respect or lose it completely. Some people do it easily others don't. Now take umm..... CT ,for example(sorry CeeT!  ) I used to actually tremble when I saw CT come in the chat. I was thinking OMG.. It's the Big Kahuna coming in... I knew, from others telling me, that he had done alot of great things for OTF and was well respected. He automatically got my respect just from that alone. Over the years, I have gotten to know him and lovely wife JJ, and my respect for the both of them has grown eminscly(sp?). They are truely awesome peeps. To me, the things he's done for the community and also for the fact that he still shows up in chat,the respect factor just keeps going up. To me.. that is what respect is earned means. proof to yourself(whatever that may be-it's is different for everyone) that they deserve it from you. Noone else can tell you how to feel or how you actually feel.. that is on you and you alone.
And Friar of the Lions Aeon, don't ever feel bad for bringing this topic up.. that's what forums are for.. to discuss things.*hugs* as long as people keep things in check..it's all good.
So yeah..I hope my ramblings make some sense to atleast one person.
Cinna
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kady
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2006 16:31
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<!--QuoteBegin--citron+Aug. 12 2006,04:33--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (citron @ Aug. 12 2006,04:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--kady+Aug. 11 2006,17:12--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (kady @ Aug. 11 2006,17:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Better yet, don't break any laws and then you won't have fines to pay in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Exactly <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/win.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> Fines... rules... same thing. Don't break them, and you'll be fine. <br><br>I love it when people complain that people are mean to them and they keep getting shot out when it's their doing for breaking a rule <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, I can't claim to be perfect. I did give the policeman a difficult time over putting that boot on my car. He blushed a lot, remained respectful, said, "Sorry, Ma'am" and "Have A Good Night, Ma'am" and left with realizing that I might be complaining that he made my night horrible over all that trouble I went though, but realistically, I was making his night horrible with my attitude and making him go to all that trouble and all due to the fact that I was the one in the wrong.<br><br>Remember, the rule enforcers are there to make the internet or OTF community, or your local neighborhood a safer place for everyone. They don't sit around laughing at us (well, not all of them, anyway), and toasting a celebration over getting to shoot everyone out of OTF. Likewise, the police don't celebrate writing out fines....*thinks* wait, any time I went out with my cousins the police officers, they were writing down suspicious looking liscense plate numbers...ok, the police do have fun seeing people go down. Maybe ISA does too. <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo-->
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polson
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2006 17:27
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I have fun but I won't specify what doing. 
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aeon
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2006 20:36
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<!--QuoteBegin--christena+Aug. 12 2006,09:11--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (christena @ Aug. 12 2006,09:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->And Friar of the Lions Aeon, don't ever feel bad for bringing this topic up.. that's what forums are for.. to discuss things.*hugs* as long as people keep things in check..it's all good. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I'm glad to announce that I don't feel bad anymore for what I've posted. I'm proud of it. It was about time to post a thread like that. And yet I have to admit, if there weren't people like you and Polson (and the ones behind the curtain), I maybe would still feel bad. <!--emo&:}--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blu.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':}'><!--endemo-->
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polson
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# Posted: 12 Aug 2006 22:14
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Yay, I'm an example!
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stevennorton
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2006 02:48
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If I was smart... I'd wash my hands of this topic... but no one has ever accused me of having an over abundance of intelligence.
I shall respond with a huge rant/opinion/story/revelation in the near furture.
Steve
edit: a couple of grammar errors 
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bont
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2006 02:44
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i am not going to rant or preach, just state my opinion, if i offend it is unintentional.
When i first started coming here, i will admit that i was an ass, and no doubt offended people, that was what i was trying to do. some time later i came to a realization, OTF isnt just a chat room, or a community, like some of you have said, in one way or another, we are family, just think how many strong relation ships have been made from this "little corner of cyberspace"? and how many good nights/ days have people had at the unions?
i now know this, with this realization that has no doubt came with maturity. but know this, you cannot ask people not to be themselves, yes, if they get out of line let them know (myself included)
Respect is a thing that does need to be earned, but it also has to be given, it is a two way street, if some people are stubborn, or set in their ways or whatnot, Good for them! they are sticking to what they beleive in, and not chaning who they are for the likes of others, that to me is moral fiber, that alone in its self is a vary rare trait.
i will tell you this now, with confidence, this place is now becoming a home to me, and i would ike to thank the people, that have put countless hours into the place they love to come too.
- CL2 Brett Norton
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bria
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2006 07:47
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I think a lot of people are confusing respect with authority. If I respect someone, it means I accept who they are and how they are. And that respect is given, not earned. If someone starts offending me or bothering me with their behaviour, then yup, the respect I have for them takes a nose-dive real quickly. But as long as they're leaving me alone with their way of being, I don't see a problem treating them with respect.
Respect, in the sense that it is referred to in the PDs, does not constitute letting someone order you around or saying that they have any kind of authority over you. It just means accepting them as a fellow human and treating them with common decency. It's the respect that means you let someone finish their sentence, you move your bag out of their way on the bus, you keep your voice down when you're in the cinema even though you don't like the film, and so on. It's not even a very personal kind of respect. It's just a general thing you apply to everyone.
I start with the assumption that everyone's human and that I'm gonna treat them the way I'd like to be treated. If they throw it back in my face, or behave in a way that bothers me, then I will not respect them anymore. It's simple.
It also has nothing to do with how long someone's been around. Saying "Show me some respect, I've been around for 3 years longer than you" isn't a request for respect. It's a grab for authority. Power. And that's something entirely different.
Also... yeah, I love seeing people go down. I love clicking a few links and buttons, then writing a paragraph about why I just did that. It gives me personal satisfaction to know that I just removed a kid from a chatroom.
Uh... no. The "victim" is who makes it personal. For me, 's just a job that I do because someone, somewhere, decided that I have the necessary abilities for it. I do it even though other people like throwing those abilities into question. I'm just keeping the chat reasonably free of nuisances. I couldn't care less who the nuisance is. If they want to make it a personal vendetta... why, I don't care about that either. 
People like that tend not to like me.
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polson
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2006 08:04
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I like Bria, but that's probably because we think strangly alike at times. That and she's super awesome cool.
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nicoll
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2006 15:58
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Note to idiots, Respect has nothing to do with the way you treat somebody. That's courtesy.
Maybe some of you should consult a dictionary.
Now I'm going to leave this thread bofore I say something you regret.
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citron
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2006 18:27
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Was there any purpose to calling people idiots? I'm sure it wasn't called for at all, and I'm not the only one who agrees.
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