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kady
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 03:16
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I might have been one of those loud obnoxious people who drink too much and get way too loud last night....*grips head* But, it's still early, and I don't remember very clearly exactly what all did happen last night... 
I always thought that I had a dislike of babies and children. I have a godson now, and I think he's adorable. I don't actually spend much time with him, but I have lots of pictures! OK, I have no idea what I'm writing anymore and am just going to end it here.
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babel
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 03:57
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<!--QuoteBegin--kady+Sep. 09 2006,03:16--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (kady @ Sep. 09 2006,03:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I might have been one of those loud obnoxious people who drink too much and get way too loud last night....*grips head*<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Kady darlingm, you are a girl after my own heart!<br><br>Damn I had a good night last night and damn I am paying for it today and yes I was VERY loud last night ;-)<br><br>Sambuca shots, what in the word was I thinking of? Oh well. Hell, it was a good night!
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cellucci2
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 06:10
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WOW, I'm shocked by this forum 
Are you telling us that your parents took you only to McDonalds and such? And that you all behaved perfectly?
I am a proud parent of two great kids, and even though at times, (many times) they carry on and misbehave, they are children, and that will happen. Now I'm not saying I let them run around at nice resturants, or at exhibits, but they do have every right to attend these places.
I do believe it's all on how the parents raised the kids. They are not stupid, they know their limits, yes, they like to test them, but thats what being a human is all about.  if not, we'd be just like the animals. Now, really how else are they suppose to learn the proper way to act if they are not exposed to these situations early on.
So come on, have you all forgotten what it's like to be a kid?
Hell, most of you still are 
Moon
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richard
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 06:27
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I can only agree with Lisa. Everyone here used to be an angel when they were kids? Yeah right, my arse!
Kids are kids, period. Yes, it's the parents job to teach them how to behave. Don't blame the kids for that. Problem is indeed the discipline. A good smack on their little bums works. God knows I had enough of them. Thing is, in more and more countries, the government is taking away the parents right to punish their kids in a proper way. In fact, over here in The Netherlands by law I'm not even allowed to spank my son. No... we have to talk to our kids. Sure... that's going to help. 'Stop doing that Collin, or I will just have to tell you to stop that again!' Uh-huh...
Anyway... something that I thought reading the very first post... What bloody right does someone who has no kids to tell those that have to leave the kids at home? I'm a non-smoker... Is it okay if I tell all smokers to leave their bloody fags at home when they go out After all, I don't really like inhaling someone elses crap. Personally I try to avoid going into smoke-filled places.
Now, I'll end this with a little advise: If you find yourself in a place with unruly brats, don't be such a bloody wimp, and go address the parents. Don't come here bitching about it. 
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babel
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 06:38
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I was generally a good child but gave my parents a hard time occasionally.
Like when I was 3 and climbed out of my bedroom wondow, slid down the roof and fell into the garden
Or when I was 4 and swallowed a bottle of heart tablets
Or when I was five and demolished a glass door at my uncles, and at the same house, a few weeks later, got drunk of punch with my cousin
Sometimes I got what we call 'a clip round the ear' and though yes, I am in favour of kids not being hit, it didn't seem to do me much harm. In general I spent my time playing out, climbing trees, making dens, or if I had to be indoors, drawning, reading, making models out of odds and ends . . .
These days I see kids and parents with zero attention spans. I se eparents sitting there not giving a toss if their kids are running around screaming. I see other parents given a hard time for trying their best. In the old days - yes, I had to mention that phrase - the support network for parents was much better than it is today.
It was called 'the community'.
You could let your kids play out all day and there'd be someone to look out for them . . . I'd often talk to the neighbours on my sreet and they'd give me an apple or another little treat. My generation wasn't perfect but in general we knew right from wrong, we were physically active and didn't spend all day playing on playstations, we had some respect for people and property.
Yeah, sometimes we got into scrapes. I had my fair share, certainly. But it seems to me that now parents have a harder job, and as a result some struggle to do a good job. I'm not juding, btw, I'm a parent myself so I think this applies to me, too.
It's difficult. I guess my main message is NOT to judge. Hope I've made some kind of sense in this ramble.
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xemxija
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 07:57
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"Boys and girls are dressing alike. They love luxury, have contempt for authority, show disrespect for their elders and prefer to chatter than to exercise. Children are now tyrants and not the servants of their households. They no longer show respect when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents, chatter over the top of their elders, gobble their food at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannise their teachers."
~Socrates
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xemxija
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 08:16
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And also, I am the parent of a sometimes loud and out of control child. She might act up and start crying, get angry and shout, and in general annoy most people. I still take her out because I don't believe she should be sentenced to a life indoors just because she can't behave. I realise this world caters mainly to normal, well adapted kids. Well, my kid isn't one of those people. Sure, if she's screaming at the top of her lungs in a restaurant, I'll take her outside for a while to cool off, but people still have time to get annoyed and sigh and roll their eyes.
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darth_balco
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 08:35
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<!--QuoteBegin--xemxija+Sep. 09 2006,08:16--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (xemxija @ Sep. 09 2006,08:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->And also, I am the parent of a sometimes loud and out of control child. She might act up and start crying, get angry and shout, and in general annoy most people. I still take her out because I don't believe she should be sentenced to a life indoors just because she can't behave. I realise this world caters mainly to normal, well adapted kids. Well, my kid isn't one of those people. Sure, if she's screaming at the top of her lungs in a restaurant, I'll take her outside for a while to cool off, but people still have time to get annoyed and sigh and roll their eyes.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>But at least you're doing something about your kid getting out of control in certain public places. Yeah you're not giving her a whooping, but just taking her outside to cool off is a lot better than what most parents do when their kids get out of control. <br><br>My only concern when parents take their kids out is that they start throwing a fit when they don't get what they want and the parent does nothing about it. Sure, you can always go ask the parents if they could tell their kids to quiet down, but sometimes that could backfire because some parents, no matter how good or bad they raise their kid, will snap back some retort saying that they're kid is doing no wrong or they know what they're doing. The kid can't be blamed for their actions, it is the full responbility of the parent to monitor, displine, and nuture them into decent people. If the parent can't do that, then kids will act out of control in public places because the parent has failed to teach them how to behave in public.
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taurik
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 10:08
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Just got back from Hooters. No kids there! But I sure felt like one in a candy store. 
Thank God there's football on Sunday so I have an excuse to go back. Pat, you comin'?
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darth_balco
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 10:10
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<!--QuoteBegin--taurik+Sep. 09 2006,10:08--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (taurik @ Sep. 09 2006,10:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just got back from Hooters. No kids there! But I sure felt like one in a candy store. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> <br><br>Thank God there's football on Sunday so I have an excuse to go back. Pat, you comin'?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>If we can find someone to work for me, Yes. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> <br><br>That's one day nobody should have to work during the fall.
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darth_balco
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 10:12
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<!--QuoteBegin--darth_balco+Sep. 09 2006,10:10--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (darth_balco @ Sep. 09 2006,10:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--taurik+Sep. 09 2006,10:08--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (taurik @ Sep. 09 2006,10:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just got back from Hooters. No kids there! But I sure felt like one in a candy store. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> <br><br>Thank God there's football on Sunday so I have an excuse to go back. Pat, you comin'?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>If we can find someone to work for me, Yes. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> <br><br>That's one day nobody should have to work during the fall.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well except for the football players or anyone working for the NFL. They're the reason Sundays during the fall are so amazing and I thank them a lot for it. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> <br><br>And Places like Hooters and Bars as well. They're vital elements to the football season.
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kady
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 19:40
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<!--QuoteBegin--babel+Sep. 09 2006,03:57--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (babel @ Sep. 09 2006,03:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--kady+Sep. 09 2006,03:16--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (kady @ Sep. 09 2006,03:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I might have been one of those loud obnoxious people who drink too much and get way too loud last night....*grips head*<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Kady darlingm, you are a girl after my own heart!<br><br>Damn I had a good night last night and damn I am paying for it today and yes I was VERY loud last night ;-)<br><br>Sambuca shots, what in the word was I thinking of? Oh well. Hell, it was a good night!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I'm always popular when I drink. However, I also never live it down. I've been booked for parties throughout the rest of the year. I usually don't go, but I always manage to shock and amaze people who think they have a certain perception of my personality and then see how loose and fun I am after a couple drinks.<br><br>Last night, my friend Andrew tried to show me his pretty orange boxers and I told him that I didn't want to see them. I did tell him, however, that the waiter was checking him out and managed to persuade him to give his phone number to him. He's got a serious b/f, but I convinced him that a little competition will only make his b/f value and appreciate him that much more. It sounded like a good idea at the time. He'll hate me when he sees me at work on Monday. He also tried to make out with a yellow Nissan XTerra, but I tried to explain to him that he was better off with his b/f. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--><br><br>There were a few people who remained sensible last night. They will be the ones who will fill us in on everything we did but don't remember. <!--emo&:}--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blu.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':}'><!--endemo-->
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toddy
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2006 12:29
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I'd have to agree with Moon, Richard and Xem. I didn't reply to this topic originally, because the title of the thread really irritated me. Of course, with a new baby and practically no sleep, everything irritates me.
Should parents take a more active role in disciplining and instructing their children? Yes. Should parents "leave their children at home", because childless couples don't feel like hearing them? No. How do you think we teach our children how to act in society? By locking them at home with a babysitter and keeping them inside the four walls of their home? Absolutely not. If my child acts up in public, they are disciplined and if they continue, they are removed from the situation. I try to remain mindful of others and my children's noise levels. However, I will not leave them at home just in case they might act up.
And there's more than a bit of truth to what Polson said. If we could stop thinking about ourselves and start thinking about others, the world would be a much better place.
Anyway, I apologize for the tone in my post, it's probably all sleep deprivation. I told Jon I was going to leave this thread alone, but I caved. Sorry Honey! 
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candyshop
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2006 13:56
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but Toddy what you have to understand is that not every parent is like you. Yes, when you take your kids out to a restuarant and they act up YOU may disapline them, YOU may remove them, but not every parent is like you. Besides, if you had a sitter and you and Jon got to go out for a romantic dinner, wouldn't you be slightly annoyed if someone elses child was throwing a fit at an expensive resturant that isn't geared towards children?
No, I don't think locking children away is the answer, I also don't think beating them black and blue is the answer. If you have a two year old and you know they throw their food, why would you even consider taking them to a quiet sit down resturant? Yes, we could just shrug off the screaming two year old that's at the table next to us, who has been told to quiet down but not removed from the table. Maybe we could ignore the pasta being thrown at our table, that falls so perfectly it manages to extinguish the candles on our table. Maybe we can deal with the woman screaming at the child and then at me and my boyfriend because in her haste to get up to go to the bathroom *without* the child mind you, she has hit my boyfriend in the face with her purse.
I think my point is, I don't think that children should be excluded from all places, but I'll state again, I think most parents just need to use a little bit more thought when deciding what venues are appropriate to take your children to.
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toddy
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2006 16:07
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<!--QuoteBegin--candyshop+Sep. 10 2006,13:56--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (candyshop @ Sep. 10 2006,13:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Besides, if you had a sitter and you and Jon got to go out for a romantic dinner, wouldn't you be slightly annoyed if someone elses child was throwing a fit at an expensive resturant that isn't geared towards children?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Nope. Actually, we'd probably grin privately at each other, happy that it wasn't our child. <br><br>Like I mentioned above, it was more the title of the thread (and a few comments) that irritated me. There will always be the negative family situation that ruins a meal, just as there will always be other factors that could ruin a nice night out. Feel free to rant about the single situation (like the time we were given raw chicken at Friendly's! <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo-->), but don't lump all of us parents together and tell us to keep our children home. That would be similar to me ranting about childless couples and telling you all to stay home if you want peace and quiet. I will agree there are some things that need to be age appropriate. In fact, I have yet to take any of my children to a movie theater. I think they're too young, wouldn't sit still and wouldn't enjoy it....which means, I won't enjoy it either.<br><br>However, all that being said, if you asked Jon his opinion, he'd probably agree more with you. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/win.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> It's been a topic of debate in this household now and again.
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austins
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 07:48
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Jon speaks!!
My wife mentioned this thread to me, and I read it..
From what I saw in the original post, it really started less as a gripe session, and was more about bragging..
Throwing all the numbers out there "for those who like the actual numbers" Riiiight.. Like anyone cares how much you spend on trying to fill the void left in your life by being childish ... ooops, meant Child-less..
Whatever..
~ Jon
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crazytexan
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 08:34
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I have been amused by another thread. Well done! *applauds* 
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candyshop
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 09:58
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actually, it wasn't about bragging.
Some people just actually don't like reading numbers that are written out and some people prefer it. My point was that at a nice resturant that's not geared towards children I don't want to see them.
Had I spent 15 bucks at a Panera then okay fine no big deal but I think monetary concerns do come into play.
I mean, what sane person would spend 40 bucks on a kids plate at a resturant? Er, not many in my opinion anyways, but 10-20 okay sure, I've got neices and nephews and I don't take them to places like that. I take them to places where they can be KIDS. Where if they scream and hollar it doesn't make a difference because they're surrounded by kids and people with the kids. Not to a place with candles on the table. If your under say 12, Candles should be reserved for birthday cakes.
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richard
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 10:58
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<!--QuoteBegin--candyshop+Sep. 11 2006,09:58--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (candyshop @ Sep. 11 2006,09:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->actually, it wasn't about bragging.<br><br>Some people just actually don't like reading numbers that are written out and some people prefer it. My point was that at a nice resturant that's not geared towards children I don't want to see them.<br><br>Had I spent 15 bucks at a Panera then okay fine no big deal but I think monetary concerns do come into play.<br><br>I mean, what sane person would spend 40 bucks on a kids plate at a resturant? Er, not many in my opinion anyways, but 10-20 okay sure, I've got neices and nephews and I don't take them to places like that. I take them to places where they can be KIDS. Where if they scream and hollar it doesn't make a difference because they're surrounded by kids and people with the kids. Not to a place with candles on the table. If your under say 12, Candles should be reserved for birthday cakes.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I'm going to bluntly honest here...<br><br>I'm a pretty easygoing bloke, but right now I'm having a hard time making up my mind wether to dislike or just pity you.
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kittykat
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 12:13
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not having kids is a void?
Are you *really* sure you want to travel down that route?
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austins
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 13:51
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<!--QuoteBegin--kittykat+Sep. 11 2006,12:13--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (kittykat @ Sep. 11 2006,12:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->not having kids is a void?<br><br>Are you *really* sure you want to travel down that route?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>No, I was more basing my comment on two things..<br><br>one, Candy's expressed desire to have children in the future..<br><br>Two, being Jon and taking pot-shots..<br><br>Having children is indeed not for everyone.. <br><br>But being respectful of children, is.
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candyshop
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 14:33
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I'm respectful of children, I like children, I just am at a point in my life where I really don't want to be bothered with them.
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katelyn
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 14:51
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Last night I took my youngest friend to see Pirates of the Caribbean 2. And everything seemed to be okay through a good portion of the movie, until the child of the people sitting across from us decided s/he was bored... s/he started screaming, and then walked away from his/her parents, and while the mom sat on her bum telling the kid to come back, s/he started running around the whole entire theater (and it was a small one, so the kid was more than obvious) and then squealing with delight at escaping from his/her parents. And still the mom sat, her butt seemingly glued to the seat... so the kid just went on causing general havoc. My friend and I tried very hard to ignore him/her but really, the child completely interefered with the whole experience, and now at 7.25 a pop to see a movie for just one time, well, it was kind of a pain. Because she is too young to work and get money, and I only work 20 hours a week. So I have to say I was extremely annoyed... the dad finally got up and threatened the child that, if he had to come get him/her, there would be hell to pay... Tentatively the kid walked back... but when finally safely in the arms of the parents, started screaming bloody murder....
I respect kids... I think kids are cute.... but there are limits...
I work in a video rental store and there's this particular group of people who comes in, this grandpa and his daughter, and his grandchildren, usually just a small boy and an adopted older girl, but sometimes there's an extra boy... If the grandpa doesn't put the boy down, he screams so horribly that even my customers complain about what an animal house it is in there... then if he does put the boy down, he runs around knocking movies down from shelves, and neither the woman nor the grandfather stop him, and they also don't put the movies back. By the time they leave, it looks like a hurricane went through the store, and guess who gets to pick up their kid's mess. Not the kid, not the responsible party, but me. And though I know it's a part of my job, it's not part of my job to pick up after other people's children.
So yeah. I respect kids a lot... I think they're really cute, and I have met a million sweethearts... but for every sweetheart, there's an incorrigible brat that needs to be taught how to behave in public.
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austins
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 15:51
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And you see that is exactly the problem.. It's not the kids who are the problem.. they haven't been taught any better..
The problem in that case, and indeed the others mentioned, is the childrens parents.. They are the ones who lack the parenting skills to either remove the child from the movie theatre, or ensure the child stops the noise and stays put...
The topic of this thread is either fallacious, or at best incomplete.. The problem is the parents of the kids which are causing problems.
Perphaps "Leave your kids at home if you can't control them" would be better, or even just "Parents, discipline your children"..
If a well behaved child attended the movie (There may well have been others in there) or attended "An evening with King Tut" (By the way... he's dead.. how interesting could that be? ;p ).. Didn't disturb you, then we wouldn't be having this thread.
Or, even if the child did start talking in the movie, the parents should remove themselves and the child, and deal with them..
Even in the grocery store, if my children pitched a fit, I would leave my wife to do the groceries, and take them outside to deal with them.. or if alone, leave the cart there, and take them to be dealt with..
The problem is ineffectual parents.. So I hope those aspiring parents who are whinging, are prepared to do the job correctly..
Sometimes you just wish you could be a fly on the wall and fast-forward a bit..
~ Jon
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candyshop
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 16:02
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and in the end that was my actual point.
When I went to the bloomingdales cafe while in Chicago there was very VERY well behaved little girl with her mother (she was about 8) and those types of children I have no problem with.
I said several times that parents should make responsible choices for when and what types of venues their children should be allowed to go to. I like children a great deal but there are certain places that aren't child appropriate.
and btw, I'm an anthropologist at heart, the exhibition was actually amazingly fantasitic. Plus the audio tour was narrated by Omar Sharif, it was good stuff. I mean the quality of some of those artifacts even though they're thousands of years old is amazing. The level of quality of work that was put into them considering that they didn't have the same types of tools and machinery that we have now is amazing. But you can read all about the exhibition in the next issue of Art Monthly...
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katelyn
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2006 22:10
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Okay, but I still have a problem with the kids, but the reason I have a problem with them is because of the parents. So the parents are the reason, but the kids are acting out. My grandma was brought up in a racist household, I still thought her ideas were wrong but sure, I blamed her parents. If you read my post carefully you can see I pretty much was upset with that mom at the theater, and with the guardians/whatever they are at the video store. I know lots of good kids. I don't think I should be demanded to respect brats though, or kids with bad manners... do I demand you to respect people with rude manners? And yet do I also demand you to blame those people's parents for their manners, and that you should not blame them? I mean this could be an endless debate. All I was saying was I agreed, that some kids are a pain in the butt. I'm sorry I even said anything.
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kittykat
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2006 00:35
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<!--QuoteBegin--austins+Sep. 11 2006,13:51--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (austins @ Sep. 11 2006,13:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--kittykat+Sep. 11 2006,12:13--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (kittykat @ Sep. 11 2006,12:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->not having kids is a void?<br><br>Are you *really* sure you want to travel down that route?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>No, I was more basing my comment on two things..<br><br>one, Candy's expressed desire to have children in the future..<br><br>Two, being Jon and taking pot-shots..<br><br>Having children is indeed not for everyone.. <br><br>But being respectful of children, is.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Good! cause I just don't like kids. Yes - I'll entertain them for short periods of time. But for me they're just too noisy, messy, demanding and expensive. Which is just how kids are.
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xemxija
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2006 12:51
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Not all parents have children who you can control and raise them to behave in public. I know we're not a majority but we exist. And as I said before, I will continue to take my misbehaving 7-year old who throws fits out. I'll take her to the supermarket and if she throws a fit? Well, too bad, I'm still going to do my shopping. People will roll their eyes at me and my child, make comments and sigh. But I don't care because they don't understand, because if they did they wouldn't. Even when my child is happy she has a really high pitched squeal going on, and people get bothered by that. mleh.
My daughter flapped her arms when we were on a boat trip this summer and she accidently hit a woman sat next to her (not hard or anything, more like brushed her arm). I turned to the woman and smiled and said I was sorry, but she just jumped up and started going on about how I should tell my kid off, sorry, but I won't. I know it wouldn't do any good, it'd probably just make my girl more agitated and nervous and it'd be uncomfortable for everyone.
Yeah, I probably got a bit OT...
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