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rag451
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# Posted: 6 May 2003 14:28
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From Trek Today
Rick Berman revealed that next season will see Enterprise take on an entirely new mission after an alien attack devastates North America.
In a TV Guide interview scheduled for publication in the May 10 issue, Berman said, "What we are about to do is a first for Star Trek...there has never been a Trek series built around a specific mission and specific stakes."
In the case of Enterprise, in the May 21 season finale, "The Expanse", the mysterious Xindi send a probe to Earth that devastates everything between Florida and Venezuela. The Xindi have obtained information that Earth will destroy their home world centuries in the future, and have decided to strike first.
"In the past, our captains have had the general mission to explore outer space," noted Berman. But on Enterprise, the future of mankind may rest with NX-01 crew: "It's up to Captain Archer to go there and stop them from destroying us altogether."
As previously reported, Enterprise (which will be "retrofitted for war"), is set to head into a dangerous area of space known as the Delphic Expanse to track down the Xindi. According to the magazine, voyagers who enter this area of space "meet a shocking and grisly fate": "Their bodies become anatomically inverted (skin on the inside, organs on the outside), yet they somehow remain alive."
TV Guide also reports on several other developments for next season, ranging from the first use of photon torpedoes in Starfleet history to a new outfit and hairdo for T'Pol.
The issue, which features Smallville stars Tom Welling and Kristin Kreuk on the cover, will be on newsstands May 5.
From Trek Today:
Executive producers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga revealed more about the planned changes to Enterprise next season in an excusive interview in the current TV Guide, now available on newsstands.
As previously reported, the May 10 TV Guide previews the season finale, "The Expanse", in which a mysterious Xindi probe arrives to "blast a swath of destruction" that wipes out everything on Earth from Florida to Venezuela.
"The hour ends on a chilling threat of more devastation to come", wrote Michael Logan, "but this is no mere summer cliffhanger."
To meet the threat, Enterprise is made combat-ready, and Captain Archer must "become tougher and more focused", according to Braga. "He will be forced to be a more decisive captain."
Scott Bakula said he welcomed these changes and hoped they would lead to good storytelling. "For two seasons, we've been this naive, open-eyed, awestruck crew", he observed. "Now there is urgency and purpose and desperation."
The changes will also have a profound effect on Connor Trinneer's Commander Tucker, whose hometown is destroyed and sister killed in the Xindi attack. TV Guide quoted an unnamed Enterprise publicist as stating that Tucker would become "a vengeance-seeking s--t kicker".
Berman stated that he does not yet know whether the Xindi storyline will last ten episodes or encompass the entire third season, but he promised that Enterprise would not become an arc show like 24, rather more like The Fugitive, where "each episode was a stand-alone story".
He added that the Xindi "will be a very high-concept foe", possibly including computer-generated insectoid characteristics.
"It's as if the evolution of Earth had been different and dinosaurs and amphibians and insects had developed into sentient beings right along with humans", said Braga.
To read about other planned changes, including the inclusion of "young, arrogant commandos" to provide muscle on the crew next season and T'Pol's conflict with the Vulcan High Command, pick up the May 10-16 TV Guide with Smallville on the cover, on newsstands now.
So, what is your opinion about the changes coming up on 'Enterprise'?
CL5 Robert Griffith
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abby
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# Posted: 6 May 2003 17:16
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Organs on the outside, yet they remain alive... eew...
Now if Earth was devastated... don't you think it would have been mentioned at some time in Trek history?
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dierna
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# Posted: 6 May 2003 18:32
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It's not the entire earth that's devistated....Just Florida, the Caribean, Cuba, other parts of North Ameria, and Mexico.  And poor Trip...his sister is among those killed. As well as an old rival of Archer's! Im not too sure about these new aliens. They send a probe to destroy earth all cuz of some rumor that the Federation will destroy their homeworld in like the 24th or 25th century?
This will definatly be interesting. I read alot more in the tv guide(got it yesterday).
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rag451
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# Posted: 6 May 2003 19:40
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<!--QuoteBegin--abby+May 06 2003,17:16--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (abby @ May 06 2003,17:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Now if Earth was devastated... don't you think it would have been mentioned at some time in Trek history?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><span style='font-family:tahoma'>Well, Rick Berman and Brannon Braga have been very lax in their attention to detail in so far as the timeline goes. Klingons were not supposed to be met until 2218, yet so far we have had four or five Klingon-driven episodes in 'Enterprise'.<br><br>Enterprise is supposedly the first ship of its kind and also the first deep space ship to bear the name. Did someone miss a step in thinking when they named this ship, given that Captain Kirk's Enterprise was the first, and Captain Picard's the fifth? <br><br>I wouldn't worry about Trek history too much. I'm counting on, at the end of the seventh season, an episode that erases the entire series, thus setting the course of events that take place from 'Star Trek' onwards correct once again.<br><br><a href="mailto:rag451@outpost10f.com">CL5 Robert Griffith</a></span>
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rag451
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# Posted: 6 May 2003 19:42
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<!--QuoteBegin--dierna+May 06 2003,18:32--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (dierna @ May 06 2003,18:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->This will definatly be interesting. I read alot more in the tv guide(got it yesterday).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><span style='font-family:tahoma'>Dierna, if possible, would you be willing to post that entire TV Guide article here, please, including the source, author, and date?<br><br>I think that all of us might like to see what is going to happen next season.<br><br>Does it mention, in there, anything about a new title? I had heard a rumor about it, though I forget exactly where from.<br><br><a href="mailto:rag451@outpost10f.com">CL5 Robert Griffith</a></span>
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sloan
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# Posted: 7 May 2003 02:03
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you forgat to mention this robert it was in TrekToday(March 22, 2003) as well:
As for the producers' plans for Enterprise's third season, Berman shrouded himself in secrecy, commenting only that it "would be very possible" more NX-Class vessels would appear on the show, and that while also possible, "nothing is planned" regarding an appearance by the Remans. "We've discussed everything from a young Sarek to Q to Kirk. There are a lot of things in the mill. I'd love to work with John [De Lancie] again. I adore him. All sorts of ideas are in discussion now."
Young Sarek, Q, Kirk?  Now thats intresting
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the_corm
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# Posted: 7 May 2003 05:59
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Yeah, the timeline is not fully following outlined star trek events.
Kirk?....Half a century too early aren't we?...perhaps his grandfather??
Sarek was born in something like 2165...so he shouldn't be around!
Q?...hmm....now that I WOULD like to see! 
I quite like that idea of how to end the series, they "eliminate" the interference from the future and it jumps back to before Enterprise would launch....that would annoy a lot of people too...hence....I say go for it!! 
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rag451
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# Posted: 7 May 2003 06:38
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<!--QuoteBegin--the_corm+May 07 2003,05:59--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (the_corm @ May 07 2003,05:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yeah, the timeline is not fully following outlined star trek events.<br><br>Q?...hmm....now that I WOULD like to see! <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smi.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo--> <br><br>I quite like that idea of how to end the series, they "eliminate" the interference from the future and it jumps back to before Enterprise would launch.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><span style='font-family:tahoma'>No, the timeline has been just like a ball of yarn to a cat. It unravels every which way and gets tangled up in so many horrible ways. If only the cat would get caught and be strang...uhm...never mind that.<br><br>It would be interesting to see Q return, though disconcerting. When Q returned in 'Voyager' and depicted the events that Q (Quinn) had helped along in the past, we were all stunned. I mean, who had thought that the Q had been around Earthlings that long? My only problem would be, well, could the writing crew on 'Enterprise' pull off a story in which they introduced Q, but not as the Q we knew him to be in the future, and not as a "Q", if you catch my drift?<br><br><a href="mailto:rag451@outpost10f.com">CL5 Robert Griffith</a></span>
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rag451
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# Posted: 7 May 2003 06:41
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<!--QuoteBegin--sloan+May 07 2003,02:03--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (sloan @ May 07 2003,02:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->you forgat to mention this robert <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--> it was in TrekToday(March 22, 2003) as well: <br><br><i>As for the producers' plans for Enterprise's third season, Berman shrouded himself in secrecy, commenting only that it "would be very possible" more NX-Class vessels would appear on the show, and that while also possible, "nothing is planned" regarding an appearance by the Remans. "We've discussed everything from a young Sarek to Q to Kirk. There are a lot of things in the mill. I'd love to work with John [De Lancie] again. I adore him. All sorts of ideas are in discussion now."</i><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><span style='font-family:tahoma'>Sloan, I had seen that article a week or two ago, and when creating this topic decided to leave that out. I thought two articles would be enough for a first post. As other articles come out on <a href="http://www.trektoday.com" target="_blank">Trek Today</a>, I will post them here, depending on how interesting I think they will be to the readers.<br><br>Also, how much I post on this thread will be dependant on how many readers they are. This forum does not have as many viewers as the Outpost 10F General does, thus not as many topics.<br><br><a href="mailto:rag451@outpost10f.com">CL5 Robert Griffith</a></span>
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sloan
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# Posted: 7 May 2003 10:19
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*l* Sorry for ruining it Robert 
Actually, Kirk was born 82 years after the Enterprise's first mission. I agree with "the_corn" that if they want to bring Shatner back, probably he'll be kirk's grandpa  , which should please the peeps at the "Bring Back Kirk" campaign
Btw, what do you think about this campaign? if you havent heard of it (which i doubt it ) check their official site
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sloan
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# Posted: 7 May 2003 14:51
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Another thing i'd like to add. Sarek was born in 2164, while Enterprise's first mission was in 2151 (1st season). As for the second season, the last known date is Jan. 10, 2153.
So i guess we wont be seeing Sarek, atleast until the final season begins or something.
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dierna
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# Posted: 7 May 2003 16:16
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I'll be extremely pissed if Sarek shows up. They've already mentioned his grandfather as being the very first Vulcan Ambassador.
As for the change in title. No...however the theme music might change.
I can't post the entire article in here! It's too big! Oh and the skin inverted thing. Basically everyone will start looking like Lord Zedd from Power Rangers. *L* Wonder if this'll even happen to Porthos?! EEK!
But I'll try
Here it is:
The execs at Enterprise want our attention-and to get it they will kill more than 7 million earthlings in the opening moments of the show's second-season finale. The 2 year old UPNseries, the 5th in the Star Trek oeuvre, has floundered in the ratings and been reoundly criticized by both fans and media for being cautious, predictable, and dramatically limp. But it's about to get a shot of intergalactic Viagra.
In the season endier, airing May 21st, a mysterious probe from space will blast a swath of destruction across North and Central America, causing epic explositons and annihilating everything between Florida and Venezuela. As viewers will learn, this is a preemtive strike by an alien race known as the Xindi (Zin-dee), who have obtained knowledge that Earth will destroy their homeworld 400 years in the future. The hour ends on a chilling threat of more devistation to come, but this is no mere summer cliff-hanger. In Fact, it marks a whole new direction for the series.
"What we are about to do is a first for Star Trek" says Enterprise writer and executive producer Rick Berman. "in the past our Captains have had the deneral mission to explore outer space and, in the case of Voyager, a mission to find a way back home. But there has never been a trek series built around a specific mission and specific stakes- in this case, the very future of mankind."
The once-shaky Enterprise NX-01 will be retrofitted for war (we'll see the use of photon torpedoes for the first time in Starfleet history) and sent to a creepy corner of the Alpha Quadrant known as the Delphic Expanse, where even Klingons fear to tread. And with good reason: Those who enter this Bermuda Triangle-like zone meet a shocking and grisly fate.
Their bodies become anatomicaly inverted (skin on the inside, organs on the outside) yet they somehow remain alive. "We find out that the Xindi space probe was merely a test and that they are creating an even more powerful weapon," Berman says. "It's up to Captain Archer to go there and stop them from destroying us altogether."
Of course, this will require Archer to finally buck up. "Archer is going to become tougher and more focused," Says Brannon Braga. "He will be forced to be a more decisive captain."
That's already in play over at Paramount's Soundstage 18, were Bakula is filming the final moments of the finale- a scene in which the Enterprise is about to enter the dreaded Expanse. After delivering a command with quiet but steely determination-"Straight and steady, Mr. Mayweather. Lets see what's out there"-Bakula sits down for a chat and admits that he, too, is ready to get serious.
"For 2 seasons, we've been this naive, open eyed, awstruck crew, and while I don't think we've been bumbling, we have been unprepared and ill-equipped at times."Bakula notes. "Now there is urgency and purpose and desperation- all the things that make for really good storytelling-and we have to rise to the occasion. In a way, this feels like a second chance."
While Berman doesn't yet know if the Xindi Plot will last 10 episodes or become the basis of the entire 3rd season, he wants it known that "we are not turning Enterprise into 24. It'll be more along lines of The Fugitive, where the over-riding story arc was Dr. Kimble finding the on-armed man, but each episode was a stand-alone story."
The producers hope the Xindi, like the borg, have endless plot potential. "They are very complex," Braga says. "Next season will will not only see Xindi humandoids but maybe Xindi insectoids, and who knows what other Xindi species. Each wil be intelligent and have its own form of technology. It's as if the evolution of Earth had been different and dinosaurs and amphibians and insects had developed into sentient beings right along with humans." Says Berman. "Some elements of the Xindi will be computer generated. They will be a very high concept foe."
Other Developments:
1: T'Pol will be forced to resign her post with the Vulcan High Comand when her superiors refuse to let her enter the Delphic Expanse. She'll also get a new outfit and hair style.
2: Trip will face personal tragedy when his sister dies during the attack on Earth. His hometown in Florida is also destroyed. He will become, in the words of an Enterprise publicist, "A vengeance seeking s--t kicker."
3: A squad of young, arrogant commandos- think West Pointers meet Navy SEALS- will join the crew next season to provide real muscle. These recurring, non Starfleet characters will be cast with quality in mind. "The cream will come to the top." Berman says. "and we'll see who's worthy of getting more attention."
Despite all these high octane changes, the Enterprise chiefs swear they're not acting out of panic or desperation. "This is just a little course correction." Berman says
And That folks is the article straight from the tv guide. So who wants to make a bet that the Gorn are a Xindi race??
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babel
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# Posted: 11 May 2003 05:31
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I think this is a terrible idea that smacks of desperation. I'm sorry to say it but it bears more than a passing resemblance to recent world events . . . okay, Trek has often done analogies well but this for me is just too blatant and too much! To have an entire season where the Enterprise basically goes on an arse-kicking mission? 'Retro-fitted' for war? No way. Trek is NOT about war! If they HAD to do something warsy why not the Romulan war, already established in canon?
While they're at it, they're going to bung in other known characters? *l* So much for getting away from the 24th century, eh? This is pathetic. The series started badly, got worse and now Beavis and Butthead are clutching at straws. It's a disgrace and I bet Gene is spinning in his grave.
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kittykat
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# Posted: 11 May 2003 06:17
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I can see the staff meeting....
"Look what the Dominion War did for DS9 why don't we try that with Enterprise"
being original is more difficult than you'd think apparently
KK
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# Posted: 13 May 2003 07:33
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Do we know if the timeline is set in stone? about the klingon incident, they only came to earth After the suliban chased Clang to earth hence causing humans to make contact with them way before they were ment too. What i dont understand is why do the writters keep hinting that the ST timeline is unchangable (such as the borg incident, and the deal with the last episode of season 1) and then go and make changes in the timeline like that unless they were really planning to wipe the slate clean at the end of season 7.
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rag451
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# Posted: 14 May 2003 10:45
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<!--QuoteBegin--vavap233+May 13 2003,07:33--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (vavap233 @ May 13 2003,07:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do we know if the timeline is set in stone? about the klingon incident, they only came to earth After the suliban chased Clang to earth hence causing humans to make contact with them way before they were ment too. What i dont understand is why do the writters keep hinting that the ST timeline is unchangable (such as the borg incident, and the deal with the last episode of season 1) and then go and make changes in the timeline like that unless they were really planning to wipe the slate clean at the end of season 7.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><span style='font-family:trebuchet'>The only way 'Enterprise' can redeem itself is if they blow up the whole thing at the end of the series. It'd be like hitting the reset button. Below is what I wrote on another thread about how I felt 'Enterprise' should end.</span><br><br><!--QuoteBegin--rag451 May 12 2003+19:41--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (rag451 May 12 2003 @ 19:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Enterprise's journey takes it to the heart of the Temporal Cold War, in a battle between futuristic Starfleet and Tholian cruisers against Suliban attack ships. Every few seconds, the ships wink out of existance, as they travel to other timelines in a futile attempt to regroup and destroy one another.<br><br>Daniels appears on the ship and pleads with Archer for help, saying that if the future is to be saved, it has to happen in the past. Soon, it is revealed that Enterprise itself is the catalyst to the Temporal Cold War, and Archer the fuse. The crew is told that they must all perish in order to save the future.<br><br>The ship explodes, and the final scene is a montage of images from the next two hundred years. The shaking of hands in a ceremony on Earth for the dedication of the UFP; the Enterprise flying in orbit over one it's trademark red planets; the Enterprise-B bridge, and John Harriman smiling as he welcomes the Klingons to historic peace talks; The Enterprise-E, streaking through space; Deep Space Nine hovering in space, Bajoran and Federation ships swooping in to dock; Voyager's graceful flight into dock, with fireworks to celebrate its homecoming; and finally, words decked out in Enterprise-type, "The Adventure Goes On."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br><span style='font-family:trebuchet'>It'd odd, how I have heard interviews of Rick Berman, Brannon Braga, and various other writers harping on how important continuity is, and still they violate it constantly. I would enjoy 'Enterprise' if it were the first Star Trek show, but as it is, I simply can't bring myself to click with it. I can't do it.<br><br><a href="mailto:rag451@outpost10f.com">CL5 Robert Griffith</a></span>
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rubi_con
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# Posted: 14 May 2003 13:57
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sounds like great fun! bring it on!
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