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kabe
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2003 04:54
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And now ladies and gentlemen, do we have any other entries in the 2000+ word essay competition about overclocking?  :P

i'd just like to say, try a AMD athlon (old model not XP+), can easily overclock those...:P


Justin/Kabe

lzrman
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2003 10:16
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Also Look at:
Overclockers.com For some idea's of what to do :v


Lzrman

nobbe
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# Posted: 2 Jan 2003 11:55
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Firstly, What is Overclocking?

Secondly, Is it a good thing or a bad thing to do?

Nobbe

havoc
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# Posted: 2 Jan 2003 13:04
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Right,

Overclocking for a CPU (Central Processor Unit).

The speed of a CPU is determined by two things, the FSB (Front Side Bus) and the Multiplier. For example, an Intel Celeron 600 Mhz CPU uses an FSB of 66Mhz and a Multiplier of 9, 9 x 66Mhz = 600Mhz. If we want to overclock the speed of this CPU we will have to change one of the parts of the equation.

Changing the multiplier on an Intel CPU is not an option (with any of the newer CPU’s, 233Mhz and up) so you will have to change the FSB. Some of the AMD CPUs will allow you to change the multiplier, you will have to check more about this on the AMD specific sites as to which ones can be changed and what you will have to do to allow it. The Intel Celeron 600 CPU is locked at a multiplier of 9 and there is no way of changing this.

The other part of the equation is the FSB, formally known as the 'Bus Frequency'. This is relatively simple to change if you have a motherboard that will allow it. There are also ways to get the motherboard to change the FSB if it does not give you the option to change it (this is with Intel CPU’s only using a Slotket on a Slot 1 board). Most overclocker friendly boards have various steps of frequencies to allow you to gradually increase the speed of the CPU to be able to push it to its maximum speed. The Intel Celeron 600 uses an FSB of 66Mhz by default.

Most overclocker friendly motherboards will jump to 75Mhz, then 83Mhz and most up to 90Mhz and higher. You must be careful to keep track of what your PCI and AGP buses are running at. Some motherboards will automatically set these to the closest available speed to the normal specs as possible. The PCI bus runs at 33Mhz and the AGP at 66Mhz. These speeds are calculated from the FSB by the AGP and PCI dividers. If we are using an FSB of 66Mhz, the PCI divider will be 1/2 and the AGP divider will be 1/1. (66Mhz x 1/2 = 33Mhz, 66Mhz x 1/1 = 66Mhz). If we increase the bus speed to 83Mhz for example, we now have a problem of trying to keep the AGP and PCI buses as close to their normal speeds as possible. For the PCI, 83Mhz x 1/2 =  41.5Mhz. This is a bit high for most PCI devices to handle. The AGP bus will also be running high, 83Mhz x 1/1 = 83Mhz. In most cases, a Celeron 600 will be able to handle jumping up to a 100Mhz FSB. This will allow you to use AGP and PCI dividers which will give you the exact spec speeds for each bus, 100Mhz x 1/3 = 33Mhz (PCI), 100Mhz x 2/3 = 66Mhz(AGP). If you have a 100Mhz FSB already, then a slight increase will not be too bad. The same applies to a 133Mhz FSB CPU. Just try and keep each bus as close to spec as possible. Using higher speed AGP and PCI bus speeds can cause problems with some devices, you might want to post a message and see if anyone else has had problems with the devices you have if you need to run at higher bus speeds. At 100Mhz FSB, an Intel Celeron 600 will be running at 900Mhz.

The memory bus is also clocked off the FSB. Most boards will run the memory bus at the same speed as the FSB and there is no way of changing it. Some boards will allow you to alter the memory bus by + or – 33Mhz. You will have to check the specs of your board to see if it will allow this. If for example you are running your FSB at 100Mhz and want to bump your memory bus up to 133Mhz to take advantage of your PC133 memory, you can add 33Mhz to your FSB and run your memory at 133Mhz to give a slight performance boost. This also holds true if you want to run your CPU at 133Mhz but only have PC100 memory, just subtract 33Mhz from the FSB and your memory will run at 100Mhz. This can also be handy to check and see if your memory is causing problems at high bus speeds of if it may be something else. You will of course want to run the memory as fast as possible also to give the most performance available. Running memory at too high of a speed can cause your computer to lock up. If for example you are using PC100 memory (designed for 100Mhz) and you are trying to run at 133Mhz, chances are your computer will not boot. Most memory can handle a little over what it is rated for. In general, PC100 can go to 110Mhz, and PC133 up to 140Mhz. To be safe, get the highest quality memory you can, PC150 (or better) is highly recommended if you plan on doing serious overclocking! Minimum is PC133. (Keep in mind the rules will change a little when we start using RDRAM and DDR)

The memory timings can also play a role in how well the memory will perform. Most boards will allow you to tweak the memory settings. When you begin overclocking, keep the memory settings at the slowest possible so you can put all your attention toward the CPU and then tweak the memory later on. There are allot of different BIOS's out there, so I can't tell you specifically what each setting will be, just remember that the higher the memory timing, the slower it will run. (CAS3 is slower than CAS2, 10ns is slower than 8ns)

If you begin overclocking and experience allot of instability, you will have to determine what may be causing the instability. In most cases, it will be the CPU causing problems. One way to help a CPU handle higher bus speeds is to increase the core voltage supplied to the CPU. This is determined by signals from the CPU to motherboard. Some boards will allow you to adjust the voltage a little bit, but others will not. You may have to use a few tricks in order to use a higher voltage. Basically, if you change the signals from the CPU to the motherboard, you can change the voltage. Check the FAQ for more info on this. Instability is not always caused by the CPU though. It may a PCI or AGP card, or it could be the motherboard itself (some chipsets will not handle higher than normal bus speeds). If you are experiencing instability problems, post a message on the newsgroups with your full system specs and hopefully someone with a similar system can give you an idea what may be the cause of the problems.  

Overclocking is a trial and error process. There are NO guarantees and NO way of predicting how well a CPU will overclock. Just because I got my Celeron to run at 1130Mhz doesn't mean yours will! The best way to begin overclocking is read the reviews of various CPUs and Motherboards and decide which components will be the best match to allow you to maximize your overclocking potential. You must have good cooling, you must have patients, and above all allot of luck!

Basically? Taking what you have above and beyond what it is meant to do.

Havoc!

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