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hongjun
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# Posted: 30 Aug 2004 22:22
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Hey
I know us female types took over the bloke only thread, so here for all of you blokes out there a thread for women that you can take over.
That is if you dare to 
I guess of course we evern let you take it over!
Hong
This Thread is dedicated to Logan coz he pointed out that we took over the Blokes thread!
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kittykat
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# Posted: 30 Aug 2004 23:04
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Which was started by a girl.....
I just think Logan wants to BE a girl 
KK
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katelyn
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# Posted: 30 Aug 2004 23:23
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The secret is unleashed!
Oh come on, you know all of the guys that posted in the blokes only thread want to be girls. They're jealous that they can't join in the ... women only takeover.
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logan
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 01:46
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I'd love to be a women. You lot have such a sweet deal. You can wrap men around your little fingers, all the *ahem* you want, you can wear what you want at work, you can get away with anything just by showing a little cleevage and fluttering your eyebrows and all of this without talking about the advantages you have over men in the bedroom *looks* I think I can say that.
Yes, I would love to be a women, but one that "likes" other women ofcourse
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teekay
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 02:10
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Mark, you may love to be a woman... for three in every four weeks.
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missmaul
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 03:11
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*lol @ Teekay*
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kittykat
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 04:15
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or until he gets told he can't do something because he's woman.
Hmm
we've taken over this thread as well
World domination here we come!
KK
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katelyn
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 04:20
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or he wouldn't want to be one if he was an ugly flat-chested unibrowed woman? *points to his "guy-wooing" things* ... whaaatever. You are a very bad man! I am only umpteen!
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logan
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 04:41
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I'm already Ugly, flat chested and unibrowed, things can only get better As for you only being young, stop starting adult topics then
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sg8472
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 06:16
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I'd prefer to stay a man. Women are great!... but I don't think I'd appreciate them, in the same way, if I were one. 
SG!
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polson
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 07:05
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How does one flutter an eyebrow?
@ Teek, Or how about pregnancy?
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missmaul
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 07:13
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Pregnancy? Well, no periods for 9 months. If only that were possible without the actual "having a baby" part....
MM
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polson
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 07:22
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lol, and with that Miss Maul scares off half the OTF male population from ever looking at this thread again...
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kittykat
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 09:38
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and without the morning sickness
KK
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lucient
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 10:11
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I think I am happy being me...dun want all that stuff
Luc
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crazytexan
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 10:31
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Yeah, what Luc said, I'm happy as is.
Mark, with an attitude like that it's a wonder your wife hasn't thrown you out. You have opened a Pandora's Box here, and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...
There is a urologist in Austin called Dr. Dick Chopp (seriously) that can make your dream of becoming a woman a reality if you desire. All you need is the airfare and I'm sure he'll cut you a good deal.
CT
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dracmus
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 10:38
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Eh... CT just one question.... how do you know about this doc!? Like where he lives, how to get there, what he does, even in detail!
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skull_leader
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 10:56
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I don't even wanna imagine what kind of jokes the afore-mentioned Dr Chopp hears on a daily basis...
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crazytexan
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 11:18
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<!--QuoteBegin--dracmus+Aug. 31 2004,10:38--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (dracmus @ Aug. 31 2004,10:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Eh... CT just one question.... how do you know about this doc!? Like where he lives, how to get there, what he does, even in detail! <!--emo&:?--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srp.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':?'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>A woman friend of ours mentioned that she has done having kids and was going to take her husband to this guy for a "procedure". At first we thought it was a joke, and found out that is indeed his name.<br><br>I'm sure he's heard every joke in the book and then some Skully...<br><br>ermm, time to get back on topic...
<br><br><!--EDIT|crazytexan|Aug. 31 2004,11:20-->
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kittykat
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 11:45
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would you not just call yourself Richard?
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teekay
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 12:01
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Maybe because if he called himself Richard, there would be even more jokes - this way it's like, frontal attack "let's get the jokes over with" style?
Anyway, maybe we should start a poll - how many men would like / could imagine being women, and vice versa? 
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sonata
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 12:58
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Far be it for me to stick my neck out end endure the wrath of those who assume my arguments are those of a chauvanist pig, but...
Whenever this strage agument about which gender has things better off comes up I usually hear women make two major arguments to support their cause: the menstural cycle and childbirth.
I have no misconceptions about how excruciatingly painful childbirth is. However, women parents will have a bond with their children that fathers can never have. Motherhood IS a beautiful thing, and I for one am jealous that I will never experience it.
Just my two cents.
- Jesse
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xemxija
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 14:35
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Sonata,
I think it's important to seperate sex and gender. Sex being our biological differences and gender being socially constructed. Gender does not deal with the functions of our bodies but rather with thoughts/emotions etc.
Anyway, I agree that being able to give birth to children is quite awesome. Personally I wouldn't want to be without that ever.
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sonata
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 16:07
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<!--QuoteBegin--xemxija+Aug. 31 2004,14:35--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (xemxija @ Aug. 31 2004,14:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think it's important to seperate sex and gender. Sex being our biological differences and gender being socially constructed. Gender does not deal with the functions of our bodies but rather with thoughts/emotions etc.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>Well, certainly. But this of course has inherent psychological arguments that remain yet unsolved. A human body isn't a piece of hardware that runs a personality operating system installed by society. There are also plenty of biological underpinnings that help define who we are.<br><br>I think gender is a result of both our societal programming and biological underpinnings. To say that gender is entirely constructed by society is a rather sweeping conclusion to make. To say either that gender is an inherent result of biology OR that it is entirely societal are equally dangerous statements.
<br><br><!--EDIT|sonata|Aug. 31 2004,16:10-->
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xemxija
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 16:38
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Sonata,<br><br>my initial post was a reaction to this;<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Whenever this strage agument about which gender has things better off comes up I usually hear women make two major arguments to support their cause: the menstural cycle and childbirth.<br><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>In that post you seemed to imply that gender is purely biological, thus defining "female" as someone who will/is able to bear children.<br><br>It is true that the opinions differ when it comes to what is biological and what's socially constructed. I made it quite obvious in my previous post what my opinion is. <br><br><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->A human body isn't a piece of hardware that runs a personality operating system installed by society.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Did I say it was? I said that when you equal the biological woman with the gender woman, you're linking the two together.<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--> To say that gender is entirely constructed by society is a rather sweeping conclusion to make.<br>...<br>OR that it is entirely societal are equally dangerous statements. <br> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <br><br>I would say it's "safer" to claim gender is constructed than that it is biological.
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polson
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 21:21
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I'd hate to be a man simply because of what us women put them through.
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logan
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2004 22:30
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<!--QuoteBegin--crazytexan+Aug. 31 2004,10:31--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (crazytexan @ Aug. 31 2004,10:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Mark, with an attitude like that it's a wonder your wife hasn't thrown you out. <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--> You have opened a Pandora's Box here, and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo--><br> <br>There is a urologist in Austin called Dr. Dick Chopp (seriously) that can make your dream of becoming a woman a reality if you desire. All you need is the airfare and I'm sure he'll <i>cut</i> you a good deal. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/haw.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I have an Attitude? Well yeah I do, and my wife tries to throw me out on a daily basis <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--><br><br>As for an operation. God no. I'm just saying women have a sweeter deal than us men, and we would be better off to be born female <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--><br><br>As for those two major arguements, childbirth and Menstral cycle. You can't claim child birth as a down side if you choose to go through it <!--emo&:P--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ton.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':P'><!--endemo--><br><br>Now that is what I call a pandora's box <!--emo&:k--><img src="http://www.outpost10f.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':k'><!--endemo-->
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kittykat
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# Posted: 1 Sep 2004 04:27
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I don't particularily like children, I certainly don't want any of my own and I can't imagine having of my own - but even so - bones have to d-i-s-l-o-c-a-t-e FCOL! Anyone who goes through that has my sympathy.
KK
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polson
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# Posted: 1 Sep 2004 08:30
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I personally don't think it's worse or better to be one or the other. Each gender has it's role in life.
Like I said, I wouldn't want to be a guy based alone on what us women do to them. The only reason I'd want to be a guy is to escape the pressure of having to look a certain way. I am not some tall thin wavy haired super model knock out. I'm short, I got pudge, I have plain weird silvery blonde hair that I can't do a thing with so it lays limp on my head or sticks straight up when I don't want it to. I wear glasses and I have zits. I don't flaunt anything, I hate to wear shorts if they come higher than the knee (actually I wear jeans 99% of the time anyway), and I wear t-shirts with a high collar and go down to my elbows. I haven't worn a tank top since I was 11. When I go swimming I wear a bathingsuit, a t-shirt and shorts. And there are days when I hate myself based soley on my looks. The world around me tells me I'm ugly because I don't look like a super model. I hate that pressure, and I can pretend it doesn't bother me but sometimes it really does.
And I know guys do have some pressure on them for looks, I'm not denying that. But the pressure on girls tends to be far stronger and more public.
That's the only reason I don't want to be a girl.
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missmaul
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# Posted: 1 Sep 2004 08:48
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Amen to that
I'm not perfect looking either and usually don't bother that much with make-up and such. People will have to take me for who I am. And if they don't want to that's their problem, not mine.
MM
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